If You Crash In To A Pedsetrian

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Do not touch suspicious objects
When passing parked vehicles, or anything that people/things can jump out from, I tend to ride more slowly and at a distance from them. I've had various adults, children, scooters, balls, deer, dogs and even a barrel of beer jump out in front of me, and never had a near miss with any of them. It is a dangerous situation and you adjust your use of the road accordingly.
 

Jimidh

Veteran
Location
Midlothian
I'd just reiterate what other posters have said about making sure you have some for of 3rd party liability insurance if you are doing regular miles. Might not be your fault but at least you have peace of mind that someone will look out for you if you are in the unfortunate situation of being in an accident.

BC membership costs nothing and if you are anything like me you will more than get your money back with some of the discounts you get from Chain Reaction Evans etc.
 
I understand . but in al those tens of thousands of miles how many times has a pedestrian ran out in front of you

Not many. I used to do Bishopsgate, outside Liverpool Street at 7am but the peds are mostly bimbling and chatting on the phone and munching stuff. If the ped flew out you wouldn't necessarily be considered at fault under PL, it sounds as though there was nothing you could do to avoid someone as rash as that.
 

PK99

Legendary Member
Location
SW19
How do you know if your speeding? also there are no speed restrictions for non motorised vehicles

Too fast for the conditions/circumstances.

I always think the bleat from cyclists "Speed restrictions don't apply to us. So there!" seems to give carte blanche to motorised vehicles to drive at the limit irrespective of conditions/circumstances.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Under presumed liability, you would be liable.
Only if you couldn't demonstrate why you're not! In a scenario like this, with multiple witnesses, that shouldn't be too difficult if so.

That said, I treat stopped vans like blind corners and try to keep well away from them. Not a 100% solution, I know.

BC membership costs nothing and if you are anything like me you will more than get your money back with some of the discounts you get from Chain Reaction Evans etc.
This sort of thing has been written at least twice but simply isn't true: those chain store discounts hurt local bike shops and often hurt cycling projects (because some of the chain stores don't pay into the Bike Hub project fund), plus BC rules force cyclists to wear helmets for more and more simple charity rides where they never used to, contrary to what its figurehead Chris Boardman says. If you really are pro-choice and don't have insurance as part of your household insurance, then LCC or CTC are much better choices as well as giving insurance.
 

vickster

Squire
Chain Reaction aren't a chain store, an LBS with an online operation

LBSs aren't often competitively priced which is understandable compared to an online warehouse like wiggle, but they also don't cater for my demographic for clothing so I have no choice but to buy online or use chain stores which have a wider selection

I'm happy to use an LBS for maintenance just not for kit or parts. I will pay the surcharge for fitting parts bought elsewhere however, often still cheaper

I wear a helmet so that ruling doesn't bother me. I'm sure it's a insurance criteria imposed on the organisers
 

Jimidh

Veteran
Location
Midlothian
Only if you couldn't demonstrate why you're not! In a scenario like this, with multiple witnesses, that shouldn't be too difficult if so.

That said, I treat stopped vans like blind corners and try to keep well away from them. Not a 100% solution, I know.


This sort of thing has been written at least twice but simply isn't true: those chain store discounts hurt local bike shops and often hurt cycling projects (because some of the chain stores don't pay into the Bike Hub project fund), plus BC rules force cyclists to wear helmets for more and more simple charity rides where they never used to, contrary to what its figurehead Chris Boardman says. If you really are pro-choice and don't have insurance as part of your household insurance, then LCC or CTC are much better choices as well as giving insurance.
Only if you couldn't demonstrate why you're not! In a scenario like this, with multiple witnesses, that shouldn't be too difficult if so.

That said, I treat stopped vans like blind corners and try to keep well away from them. Not a 100% solution, I know.


This sort of thing has been written at least twice but simply isn't true: those chain store discounts hurt local bike shops and often hurt cycling projects (because some of the chain stores don't pay into the Bike Hub project fund), plus BC rules force cyclists to wear helmets for more and more simple charity rides where they never used to, contrary to what its figurehead Chris Boardman says. If you really are pro-choice and don't have insurance as part of your household insurance, then LCC or CTC are much better choices as well as giving insurance.
So what have I written that's not true?

BC provide insurance, if you use their discounts you can recoup your money? Nothing untrue there.

I don't need any lectures on supporting my LBS having bought three bikes from them in the last year and giving them all my service and repair works but online has its place especially for kit as LBS is usually much more expensive and never has the correct size etc.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Chain Reaction aren't a chain store, an LBS with an online operation
I didn't say otherwise. However, BC's main discount is with a certain overpriced underserviced chain store.
LBSs aren't often competitively priced
But often they are and people don't bother to check because the above legend is repeated by BC members. My last two purchases were a kickstand that was 15% cheaper at the LBS than BC's preferred chain store (I checked afterwards) and a freewheel that was as cheap as online but I could pick it up today.
I wear a helmet so that ruling doesn't bother me.
Even so, I'm surprised you're pro-compulsion for everyone. Most people claim to be pro-choice.
I'm sure it's a insurance criteria imposed on the organisers
Why are you sure of that? The BC officer responsible had ample chance to make that claim to me and did not do so. Some other BC events and events from other organisers have insurance without that. Anyway, let's stop dragging this too far off-topic: hopefully now everyone is aware of some drawbacks of BC membership.
 

vickster

Squire
I didn't say otherwise. However, BC's main discount is with a certain overpriced underserviced chain store.

But often they are and people don't bother to check because the above legend is repeated by BC members. My last two purchases were a kickstand that was 15% cheaper at the LBS than BC's preferred chain store (I checked afterwards) and a freewheel that was as cheap as online but I could pick it up today.

Even so, I'm surprised you're pro-compulsion for everyone. Most people claim to be pro-choice.

Why are you sure of that? The BC officer responsible had ample chance to make that claim to me and did not do so. Some other BC events and events from other organisers have insurance without that. Anyway, let's stop dragging this too far off-topic: hopefully now everyone is aware of some drawbacks of BC membership.
I'm m not pro compulsion. I am pro choice, you can choose whether or not to take part in an event that requires a helmet

I've never had an issue with halfords. They are convenient being close with free parking

I don't know what BCs policies are more broadly, I'm not an activist. I have never been disadvantaged by them but being a member at the time of my accident has been beneficial

I dont like slater & Gordon for their ambulance chaser TV advertising which presumably their clients are paying for, so I would not choose CTC for my cover on that basis. I don't know who LCC use
 
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