Increase in seizures of illegal ebikes

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classic33

Leg End Member
Colin Furze has entered the chat
Don't think he'd choose the folding variety to work on.
 

johnnyb47

Guru
Location
Wales
Hi,
Today out driving I came up to a village were the speed limit was 20 mph and waiting to pull out on to the main road giving way to me was a young lad on one of those Surron type bikes.
He was barely a teenager,and riding pillion was a small kid.
No helmets no protective clothing and on a bike that was clearly illegal.
He followed me through the village tailgating me and then once the 20 turned to 50 mph I sped up to the limit.
I couldn't believe my eyes in that this bike was still tailgating me going up some steep climbs towards the Horseshoe pass here in Wales for the best part of 5 miles.
Another village came and i slowed down to the speed limit and I had to pull over to the right hand side of the road to pass by some parked up cars on the left.
Whilst I was there this idiot overtook me putting himself in the small gap between me and the curb to the right of me.
I hope Police catch up with them soon before somebody has to shovel them up off the road.
After this they shot off down some lane never to be seen again.
 

cyberknight

As long as I breathe, I attack.
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classic33

Leg End Member
Many bought them in the assumption they were to become legal.
Ebike hire is as problematic, too many riders essentially untrained
Plenty of bike riders out there that have no training, myself included.
 
Location
Widnes
To me the problem with e-scooters is that they are illegal in any case

so there is no concept of a legal version
and hence no regulations that people, can look at and say "yes that should be OK"
so they have to use things like "word of mouth" and "the bloke down the pub said" type information to decide what they want to buy

"they" would have been better off sorting something out at the start and putting in some regulations that people can at least use as guidelines

as it is people use them with no clear guidelines about what is safe or reasonable to use


Round here I have seen very few if any problems with them. Most are used for people to commute to work at the industrial estates and similar
and they are ridden sensibly and on cycle paths where available
they are generally used on the pavement if there is no cycle paths - but sensibly and avoiding walkers etc

but that is just here - and there are not that many anyway
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
E scooters are not illegal. They are just illegal on public highways. You can use on private land. It is that mealy mouthed distinction that allows them to be sold. Just make it illegal to sell them and be done with it. As long as they can be bought, they will turn up en masse on public highways.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
E scooters are not illegal. They are just illegal on public highways. You can use on private land. It is that mealy mouthed distinction that allows them to be sold. Just make it illegal to sell them and be done with it. As long as they can be bought, they will turn up en masse on public highways.
I'd put illegal usage of scooters down to "trial areas".
"They're using them there"(Wherever there is and they are), why aren't we using them here.
I'd say Leeds is going to see a sharp increase in illegal scooters in the second half of this year. They're a new trial area for e-scooters since March of this year. With LNER sponsoring the trial ones, the same as they do the e-bikes.
 
Location
Widnes
The idea that in an area where you can hire an e-scooter
but of you own one then it is illegal to use it on the same road and cycle paths

is just mad and obviously mad

it just makes the whole legal concept around these and similar devices seem stupid
and people don't respect stupid things
 
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