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If ever you're unlucky enough to have to try and get one of these 'status symbol' dogs to let go of something/someone, the easiest and often only way is to insert something like a bike pump under the collar on the back of its neck and start twisting until you basically throttle it.

Not nice, but worth knowing.
 

Jim_Noir

New Member
They shouldn't have their jaws around something in the first place, this is foolish owners that have made the dogs like this. How many of you ccyle along, wither road or tow path, that you have never been on before. And as soon as you see staffies you know your in a hell hole of a area? It's not the dog, but the people who own them
 

Nigeyy

Legendary Member
I could see it working. Then, after reading that, I started day dreaming and thinking about it -I could see a big Rottie taking a chunk out of my leg; me screaming in pain, reaching for bicycle pump... and......

"Blugger! The things not got a collar!"

or worse still, you're twisting it around, and all of a sudden, "snap" and the collar flies off! (and then "snap" as your leg breaks and flies off).

I like that one though, but would it really work? Has anyone had experience doing this?

joebe said:
If ever you're unlucky enough to have to try and get one of these 'status symbol' dogs to let go of something/someone, the easiest and often only way is to insert something like a bike pump under the collar on the back of its neck and start twisting until you basically throttle it.

Not nice, but worth knowing.
 
Nigeyy said:
I could see it working. Then, after reading that, I started day dreaming and thinking about it -I could see a big Rottie taking a chunk out of my leg; me screaming in pain, reaching for bicycle pump... and......

"Blugger! The things not got a collar!"

or worse still, you're twisting it around, and all of a sudden, "snap" and the collar flies off! (and then "snap" as your leg breaks and flies off).

I like that one though, but would it really work? Has anyone had experience doing this?

Advice of an 'expert' (Can't remember where from) on a dangerous dogs debate. The thinking being you're not the one being attacked as once clapped on the dogs tend to not let go despite anything you try.
 

MichaelM

Guru
Location
Tayside
Jim_Noir said:
.... And as soon as you see staffies you know your in a hell hole of a area? .....

It's a bit unfair on Staffies, but that's the way it is. It wouldn't surprise me if the pit bulls that crankarm saw were staffies - unless they really were huge in which case they were neither Staffie nor pit bulls.
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
MichaelM said:
It's a bit unfair on Staffies, but that's the way it is. It wouldn't surprise me if the pit bulls that crankarm saw were staffies - unless they really were huge in which case they were neither Staffie nor pit bulls.

I've always understood that staffies are actually very friendly dogs, not at all like they look.

For dog warding off advice, see the first edition of Richards Bicycle Book.
 

Turnscrew

New Member
Very sorry to hear about this. I am both a dog owner and cyclist. Of course, the dog should have been under control. However a proper bite from a Doberman would have broken skin and maybe even bone (even with amazing steel-like muscles such as yours). The dog should have been muzzled and/or on a lead, and the owner is not fit to own a dog.
 

Jim_Noir

New Member
MichaelM said:
It's a bit unfair on Staffies, but that's the way it is. It wouldn't surprise me if the pit bulls that crankarm saw were staffies - unless they really were huge in which case they were neither Staffie nor pit bulls.

Totaly, a staffie is just a dog, the same as a westie but just with diffrent clothes on. Sadly it's the people who tend to own them that are the issue, lets face it give these people any dog and it's going to be a dog with issue.

Every dog is freindly, it's what people that do to them that make the aggresive etc.

The two biggest reported breeds for biting in the UK are the Lab and the Westieand the most hospital visits due to dog bites is from Cocker Spaniel... however for fatal attacks it's the Rottie and staffie though there are very few bite cases reported.

There are very very limited Pit bulls still in the UK, most of them are Irish and brought over for fights. The few that are around would never be seen out in public, for a start the ones that are on the go cost a lot of cash and the fact the police catch you with one (so the genral pubilc don't have them, only scum of the earth dog fight organisers *spit*). Most people cross staffies with boxersor a mastiff to get a pit looking dog

Out of my 3 it's my Greyhound that would bite to kill, and this would never be human but cats and small white dogs are prey to her, hence why she doen't get off int he park (unless she is tied to the rottie then she ain't running after anything)
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
Jim_Noir said:
Out of my 3 it's my Greyhound that would bite to kill, and this would never be human but cats and small white dogs are prey to her, hence why she doen't get off int he park (unless she is tied to the rottie then she ain't running after anything)

That's a mental image I'll have for a while, a grey hound straining at a lead trying to shift a slumbering rottie....:wacko:
 

Bman

Guru
Location
Herts.
Jim_Noir said:
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There are very very limited Pit bulls still in the UK, most of them are Irish and brought over for fights. The few that are around would never be seen out in public, for a start the ones that are on the go cost a lot of cash and the fact the police catch you with one (so the genral pubilc don't have them, only scum of the earth dog fight organisers *spit*). Most people cross staffies with boxersor a mastiff to get a pit looking dog
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Apparently not. I saw a documentary on dangerous dogs a few weeks ago. The yobs/scum/owners were saying that most police dont know what breeds are illegal, so they just lie about the breed and get away with it.

I think it should be strictly licensed, like gun ownership.
 

Crankarm

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Location
Nr Cambridge
Bongman said:
Apparently not. I saw a documentary on dangerous dogs a few weeks ago. The yobs/scum/owners were saying that most police dont know what breeds are illegal, so they just lie about the breed and get away with it.

I think it should be strictly licensed, like gun ownership.

Was it the one which was shown late in the evening on BBC3 featuring scummies/yobs/criminalss in South London? If it was the same programme that I saw it was frightening. These dogs are now being used in preference to knives and guns as the preferred choice of personal protection as the penalties are so much less if some one is badly injured or dies :birthday:. At the end a serial scummie criminal allowed himself to be filmed on the streets with a new breed called a French Kruger. This was such a huge menacing dog in fact just a killing fighting machine it should have been in a zoo. Other crims/yobs walking along with their equally terrifying pitbulls caused this monster Kruger to start growling causing the approaching pit bulls and their owners to cross over to the other side of the street to avoid it :birthday: :birthday:. They then crossed back once passed. If it wasn't such a frightening sight it would have been funny, but it wasn't.

Apparently the police aren't that good at spotting dangerous dogs and it's easy for scum owners to fob them off, but that could be because the Dangerous Dogs Act is a very poorly drafted piece of legisaltion.
 

Jim_Noir

New Member
Arch said:
That's a mental image I'll have for a while, a grey hound straining at a lead trying to shift a slumbering rottie....:birthday:

It's very funny to watch, he has no pray drive at all so just stands looking confused while she goes ape trying to run after them. :birthday:
 
Report it Alex. It's not the dog's fault but as you correctly point out, next time it might be a child. If the police have no record on the dog I'm sure the owner will just be warned which should frighten her enough to muzzle the dog or keep it on a lead. happened to friend who's dog knocked a child over in a park and growled. He was a rescue who'd had a bad time. The police visited him and told him if he was reported again the dog would be put to sleep. Happily the dog calmed as he was treated well.
 
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