Irresponsible Dog Owners!

Discussion in 'Commuting' started by hoppym27, 22 Feb 2018.

  1. Nigeyy

    Nigeyy Veteran

    Location:
    Massachusetts, USA
    Oh dear, this is one of those subjects best avoided: pets, religion, politics and your kids. Of course I'd rather not kick a dog (never have) but if under threat and I had no option, yes I would. Of course "no option" sometimes isn't clear, but if a dog is snarling and looks like it's going to bite and the owner's making no attempt to restrain it, that would be good enough for me. For full disclosure, I'm not exactly a dog lover, but do like them. My family has had dogs before.

    Interestingly about a year ago I was attacked by a dog, mtbing. I tried to put the bike between me and the dog and it ran around and got a good bite of my calf. It happened so quickly I couldn't defend myself, but had it tried it again, I would have definitely kicked the bloody thing I'll guarantee that. At least the owner gave me details and paid for my medical expenses. And I definitely did report it to the police, giving all the owner's details. Why? Because earlier in the ride I'd gone by a 10-12 year old girl. I'd want it documented every time a dog attacks so at least there's a record that can help decide if a dog has previous history should be put down. As I said, I like dogs, but as far as I'm concerned if a dog bites without good cause it should be goner. Next time it might not be an overweight balding middle aged cyclist.

    And what did the owner say? "he just doesn't like cyclists". Fortunately he was apologetic after that comment because I wasn't impressed to say the least as he was walking a dog that doesn't like cyclists off leash in an area frequented by mtbers..... Anyway, sad to see some of the dog lover's responses here, seems like dogs (any dogs) are far more important than people who are unlucky enough to encounter uncontrolled aggressive dogs.
     
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  2. Randombiker9

    Randombiker9 Well-Known Member

    Every time i go to town, I use a shared cycle path which has dogs and Ducks
    Ducks just fly out of the way when they see a cyclist. Whenever the owners are near the dogs. They always try to get the dog out of the way. Although sometimes dogs just decide to run into your path. Although the last time i used the path there was a dog that looked like it was chasing me but when i cycled faster it must of just trying to have fun or just gave up as it ran back a different way but as i said it's ussually fine. You just have to cycle slowly in case you need to stop quickly, Like if there's a dog off leash and i don't know which way it's going to go towards. I'm aware of that and if i need to i just stop till the owner gets it's dog or till it moves out the way. So owners aren't irresponsible. Dogs can't help being dogs.
    I've also cycled in a park nearby where there's a lot of off leash dogs. Which just randomly run into your path causing you to break quickly. But as i said dogs can't help being dogs their just having fun.
     
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  3. Randombiker9

    Randombiker9 Well-Known Member

    But then another day. There was this German shepard puppy off leash and i was just walking my bike up hill and he came up as he was interested in the bike as he was sniffing it. So i guess he was just exploring the area and has never seen a bike, He was friendly so i said Hi to him as i like dogs.


    Dogs are great but remember it's not the dog. it's how the owner trains it. One of my parent's friends has a jack russell which got attacked by a American Staffie. Luckily the JR survived but the JR is now scared of big dogs because of that.
    Also when my dad was on holiday he got bitten by a stray pitbull.

    I've never had any bad expereinces. I like dogs but i do not like American staffie's or pitbulls. (luckily we don't have pitbulls here as there illegal)
     
  4. Bianchi boy

    Bianchi boy Senior Member

    Location:
    North wales
    1991dangerous dogs act, Chapter 65 section -3. That`s the Law, Simple
     
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  5. Randombiker9

    Randombiker9 Well-Known Member

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  6. Nigeyy

    Nigeyy Veteran

    Location:
    Massachusetts, USA
    I agree to an extent, and will say much lies with the owner, but I'd also say there are sometimes really well natured dogs, and then some dogs that just have a nasty streak*, or some dogs that are nice dogs but react badly to certain stimuli. So I'd say remember it is the dog sometimes. Or the owner sometimes. Regardless, when one bites you I can't say (at least for me) you start pondering whether it's the dog or the owner.

    *interestingly I had a friend who asked the question (seriously) "can you have a psychopathic animal?".


     
  7. Heltor Chasca

    Heltor Chasca Out-Riding the Black Dog

    Here’s another angle on the dog rant thread:

    If I do the school run, there and back, drop off and pick up, I cover about 6km on a shared path. It is our local greenway which is very popular with dog walkers because it is clean and safe and when I had a springer, it was a good way to keep her nails short. Lots of dogs out and about all year round. Generally we all get on fine and I haven’t noticed any issues for a while. Tolerance is the key.

    Until it comes to servicing my bike that is. I kid you not, the entire drive train and mudguards are smeared, tangled and matted with dogs’ hair. No jokes. In the jockey wheels, chain links, cassette. Everywhere. Weird.

    They should have to be cling wrapped before setting on foot down MY cycle route.
     
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  8. dantheman

    dantheman Über Member

    I have clipped one dog with my pedals and hit another, coming to stop with the front wheel just pinning It down as it yelped.. Both at the same part of a cycle path alongside playing fields dog walkers use, both times the owners not paying attention and both times no leads... I will say both times the owners were apologetic, but it brings me no joy to hit their pets and it would be nice if dog owners had more spacial awareness as frankly tons of times I've needed to stop or swerve massively because of them.. And I don't go down these places at breakneck speed and do ease off when I see the hazards (both above times I had eased to below 10mph..

    Bring back dog licensing..
     
  9. Alan O

    Alan O Über Member

    Location:
    Liverpool
    My latest dog-rant subject was a woman with one of those dogs on strings - the leads that extend for what seems like miles. She was crossing the road ahead of me, but was letting the lead extend and the dog follow from whatever distance it felt like - and she'd crossed the entire road with the dog still on the other pavement and the lead stretching all the way between them!

    Words (probably fortunately) failed me.
     
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