Is it hypocritical?

[EltonFrog]

From time to time people report on this site the awful news that they have been burgled, mugged or their bicycle(s) been stolen. Quite rightly some of the folks on CC offer condolences, advice and tangible help, which is all very commendable.

On the other hand some CC folks have admitted or condone taking part in downloading digital content, films, games, TV programs and music without paying for it.

Is there a difference in stealing someone's bike and stealing someone's digital content?

 

[Dan B]

Yes, there is a difference . If you steal their bike they no longer have use of it. If you download their music they continue to have use of it.

Which isn't to say that one is wrong and the other OK, just that the analogy is not a very good one

 

[EltonFrog]

Yes, there is a difference . If you steal their bike they no longer have use of it. If you download their music they continue to have use of it.

Which isn't to say that one is wrong g and the other OK, just that the analogy is not a very good one

Perhaps you'd like to offer a better analogy?

 

[shouldbeinbed]

I'm making no comment on the morality of illegal download but +1 to Dan, 'nicking' music it is not depriving someone of access and facility in the same manner as nicking their bike.

Streaming is a thing now as are unlimited play set up's like Google Play Music, a tenner a month and the whole collection is yours to play.

I don't remember the same huge amounts of industry angst over hope taping albums or taping the top 40 off the radio on a Sunday evening back in the day

 

[vernon]

What does the law say?

I know what the Fox says.

 

[raleighnut]

I'm making no comment on the morality of illegal download but +1 to Dan, 'nicking' music it is not depriving someone of access and facility in the same manner as nicking their bike.

Streaming is a thing now as are unlimited play set up's like Google Play Music, a tenner a month and the whole collection is yours to play.

I don't remember the same huge amounts of industry angst over hope taping albums or taping the top 40 off the radio on a Sunday evening back in the day

You don't remember this being printed on album sleeves then.

 

[Dan B]

I don't remember the same huge amounts of industry angst over hope taping albums or taping the top 40 off the radio on a Sunday evening back in the day

Don't you remember

http://www.badscience.net/2009/06/home-taping-didnt-kill-music/

 

[shouldbeinbed]

You don't remember this being printed on album sleeves then.

Haha, no I've never seen that before. I live and learn

 

[Dan B]

Bah, TMN to raleighnut. Copy/paste on mobile is fiddly

 

[Tim Hall]

The Big Nosed Bard of Barking had "Capitalism is killing music" on the cover of Workers Playtime.

 

[Dan B]

The Big Nosed Bard of Barking had "Capitalism is killing music" on the cover of Workers Playtime.

Did it not also come with a sticker saying "do not pay more than £6 for this record", or was that someone else?

 

[raleighnut]

Did it not also come with a sticker saying "do not pay more than £6 for this record", or was that someone else?

£4.99 actually, I had to get the LP out to check though.

EDIT- my copy actually had a price sticker of £5.49 on it from Ainleys in Leicester which I complained about and I only paid £4.99 for it.

 

[swee'pea99]

Is there a difference in stealing someone's bike and stealing someone's digital content?

As others have said, but more simply:

 

[Vapin' Joe]

Yes, there is a difference . If you steal their bike they no longer have use of it. If you download their music they continue to have use of it.

Which isn't to say that one is wrong g and the other OK, just that the analogy is not a very good one

But you've deprived them of the money they should have been paid for providing it. How would you feel if your employer refused to pay you for a days work you did?

 

[classic33]

Shoplifting is victimless!