Is it hypocritical?

Is illegal digital downloading stealing?

  • It's theft plain and simple.

    Votes: 27 90.0%
  • It's victimless.

    Votes: 3 10.0%

  • Total voters
    30
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Dan B

Disengaged member
But you've deprived them of the money they should have been paid for providing it.
That assumes I would otherwise have paid for it. Perhaps I would have done without it. Perhaps I would have borrowed it from a library. Perhaps I would have bought it second hand. Seems a bit unrealistic to assume that every instance of piracy is a loss to the creator of full RRP
 

Bobby Mhor

Legendary Member
Location
Behind You
You don't remember this being printed on album sleeves then.

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I remember Jack Valenti comparing video recorders to the Boston Strangler..

His actual words..
'I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone'
That shows the depth the film and music industry will sink to...

Hollywood and the music giants are turning massive profits every year....
mind you no film ever makes a profit...
 

welsh dragon

Thanks but no thanks. I think I'll pass.
When you have things like amazon prime, for less than £80 per year, you can download hundreds of songs and albums as well as have next day delivery on load of things, not to mention tons of tv programmes and films. With that in mind, I can't Imagine that artists make any money at all on any song. So does it make any real differance if you download a song illegally? The amount of money they would get is diddly squat.

Before digital downloading came Into being, then yes I think it mattered far more. Now? No. Songs are practically being given away by amazon and google music.

on the other hand, I do ave amazon prime, so at least they are making something I assume, and its all legal.
 

screenman

Squire
That assumes I would otherwise have paid for it. Perhaps I would have done without it. Perhaps I would have borrowed it from a library. Perhaps I would have bought it second hand. Seems a bit unrealistic to assume that every instance of piracy is a loss to the creator of full RRP

The owner of the bike may never have used it.
 

screenman

Squire
When you have things like amazon prime, for less than £80 per year, you can download hundreds of songs and albums as well as have next day delivery on load of things, not to mention tons of tv programmes and films. With that in mind, I can't Imagine that artists make any money at all on any song. So does it make any real differance if you download a song illegally? The amount of money they would get is diddly squat.

Before digital downloading came Into being, then yes I think it mattered far more. Now? No. Songs are practically being given away by amazon and google music.

on the other hand, I do ave amazon prime, so at least they are making something I assume, and its all legal.

1p is not a lot, 1,000,000p is a lot more though.^_^
 

Dan B

Disengaged member
Then you are making a contribution to the need to raise postal charges.
The same could be said of people living in remote Scottish islands. If they all moved to Birmingham then the postal service could be run much more cheaply
 

Dan B

Disengaged member
It's a thought though. I live in London, if I used the postal service more (instead of doing everything by email) I'd be helping bring the price down. Am I "depriving" royal mail of income that is rightfully theirs?
 

swansonj

Guru
Then you are making a contribution to the need to raise postal charges.
In the same way that pirating music makes a contribution to the need to raise the price of paid-for downloads?

I think it's theft. Many people think it is fair game.
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
The same could be said of people living in remote Scottish islands. If they all moved to Birmingham then the postal service could be run much more cheaply

That's a different argument.

The Postal Services Act 2011 demands, amongst other things;

Postal services at an affordable, uniform tariff across the UK.
 
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