Is it really 95% the Rider and 5% the Bike...

[Citius]

Jeez. What a thread.

I recommend you all go and watch Hand of God on Amazon Prime instead.

I just finished the series, it's good.

I could have told you what happens - Maradona scores and England lose

 

[bpsmith]

You must be very proud. I'm welling up....actually I'm not - I'm still laughing..

Anyway, I'm off to watch X-Factor now. Apparently, some of them on there are even more deluded than you are...

You're a strange kid.

 

[ayceejay]

Classic: arrive at an untenable point in a discussion/argument and claim Dude "I'm taking the piss out of you"
hey Citius I was only joking too, what a laff eh?

 

[Citius]

Classic: arrive at an untenable point in a discussion/argument and claim Dude "I'm taking the piss out of you"

To be fair, you arrived at that point on page 4, when the rest of us were already halfway through the thread - maybe you need a faster bike...

hey Citius I was only joking too, what a laff eh?

We both know that's not true. And nobody says 'laff' round here...

 

[Hacienda71]

Back on topic, Pyms Chair is a local climb I know well and is a total bitch. Huge respect to Kristian House for riding up it on that bike. I can't imagine many people have attempted to ride up it on an ss let alone succeeded.

 

[Pale Rider]

The 5 Live rider looked quite fit, but I still thought the pro would beat him.

Perhaps the pros are not quite the supermen I thought they were.

 

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[deptfordmarmoset]

The 5 Live rider looked quite fit, but I still thought the pro would beat him.

Perhaps the pros are not quite the supermen I thought they were.

Oh, I don't know. Kristian House has just got himself the KoM jersey in the ToB.

 

[Citius]

Oh, I don't know. Kristian House has just got himself the KoM jersey in the ToB.

And he was riding the 100 year-old Hirondelle, apparently....

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

And he was riding the 100 year-old Hirondelle, apparently....

Without stopping while the camera man gets himself up the road to get the next shot!

 

[Milkfloat]

The 10 mile national TT has been won by a rider on a £1000 bike.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...tional-10-mile-time-trial-championship-189583

Not sure if this proves anything but I bet he would not have won it on the Hirondell.

 

[Citius]

Not sure if this proves anything but I bet he would not have won it on the Hirondell.

Probably not, but some of the quotes from that article tell us all we need to know...

“We could have spent more, but didn’t need to. We decided to focus more on his position on the bike, rather than get carried away with spending lots of money on a top end frame,”

“I have always been a believer that you don’t need to spend thousands of pounds on equipment in order to be competitive,”

“I have performed well in road races using a second hand Boardman Team Alu frame that I found on eBay for £50.”

 

[bpsmith]

Fair enough, but he could have been even faster on a better bike too.

 

[Citius]

Fair enough, but he could have been even faster on a better bike too.

Not sure if trolling...?

PS - define 'better' ? I did ask you this before....

 

[Pumpkin the robot]

So what would the difference be on a modern, cheap bike and an expensive, modern bike? Could they compare say a £269 carrera TDF against a top of the range Pinerello? Get the pro to ride them both up a hill or on a circular route that takes in a variety of gradients (up and down) and see how much of a difference the bike does make?