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Mad Doug Biker

I prefer animals to most people.
Location
Craggy Island
The smell one of those small outboard engines for boats make, all petrol and smoke and not much moving! :biggrin:

Also, the likes of 'Alpine Fresh' or 'Pine Forest fresh' things in general. We got a spray to go with our fake Christmas tree many years ago, and never really used it much. I still smells absolutely gorgeous wehn we get it out ever year!

In fact, just dump me in the middle of a pine forest at a nice altitude, where there is a small challet, a nice roaring fire, some coffee, fried onions and bacon, BBQ, and it's about to rain the most spectacular Thunder and Lightning storm for quite a long time (the BBQ would be under cover, obviously, and any trees would be far enough away so if they go struck, they wouldn't be a danger!) and then once the storm has stopped, I can use my little boat to go and pootle about on the nearby Loch, taking in all that beautful fresh air (and scenery).

 
Rich P, why have you crushed Basil?

Basil Brush is was one of my best friends - how dare you?
Easy now! Basil has not been crushed. Indeed, this clip explains exactly what happened to him...
 

Canrider

Guru
Surely* new car smell, being entirely the product of a mix of artificial substances (glues, plastics, leathers, etc.) should be relatively easy to recreate?


*Which is to say, evidently not, but why??
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
Surely* new car smell, being entirely the product of a mix of artificial substances (glues, plastics, leathers, etc.) should be relatively easy to recreate?


*Which is to say, evidently not, but why??

Perhaps there's an intangible psychological aspect to it, the knowledge that you actually OWN a new car. Only that knowledge makes the aroma right. A sort of placebo effect.

As for aromas...

The first whiff of a freshly peeled parsnip.
 

Mad Doug Biker

I prefer animals to most people.
Location
Craggy Island
Don't know about new c*rs ad so on, but one of the most memorable train journeys smellwise I have taken was in June 2005 on one of the last CEP services travelling from Victoria to Dover and Ramsgate.

Going through Kent was amazing as the windows still opened on these trains (it was a slam door train), so the smell of the fruit growing in the Orchards engulfed the coach!!

I could try it now on a '375, but I doubt I'd be able to smell anything, more's the pity.
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
Surely* new car smell, being entirely the product of a mix of artificial substances (glues, plastics, leathers, etc.) should be relatively easy to recreate?


*Which is to say, evidently not, but why??

Unfortunately not. The vinyls, rubbers, carpets and adhesives all give off their own molecules; that grey film that forms on the insides of the car windows is plasticiser migrating from the vinyls, one major problem that car makers have never been able to solve. We associate the odours with a new car so a synthetic version would be very valuable to the car valeting business. However of the 3000 or so raw materials available to the perfumer none reproduces those odours. Even if they did, the perfume would be so complex as to be uncommercial to manufacture. The best they can manage is leathery smells because leather notes are a component of some masculine perfumes, so typically a new car smell isn't very realistic and costs too much for valeting products.

More technical bit: you could do a headspace analysis of the atmosphere inside a new car and you would find all kinds of molecules floating around, some of which you might even recognise on the chromatogram, but you wouldn't know how to buy those molecules commercially and in a form that was safe to use in your factory or spray into the air. They might be explosively unstable, poisonous, carginogenic or just horrendously rare and expensive; the H&S bods would have a field day with them.
 
Don't know about new c*rs ad so on, but one of the most memorable train journeys smellwise I have taken was in June 2005 on one of the last CEP services travelling from Victoria to Dover and Ramsgate.
:sad: (*sniff*) (*wave of nostalgia*) (*sniff*) :sad:
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srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
Having grown up in a brewery town with its own maltings:

Malt being made

Beer being brewed
 

Mad Doug Biker

I prefer animals to most people.
Location
Craggy Island
Having grown up in a brewery town with its own maltings:

Malt being made

Beer being brewed

Ironically, the last CEP left in service was number 1198, which Shephard Neame were originally going to preserve, seeing that they were from where it had ran all of it's life, and more crucially, because they had started brewing IN 1198.

Trains and beer, a great combination.
 

Mad Doug Biker

I prefer animals to most people.
Location
Craggy Island
Unfortunately not. The vinyls, rubbers, carpets and adhesives all give off their own molecules; that grey film that forms on the insides of the car windows is plasticiser migrating from the vinyls, one major problem that car makers have never been able to solve. We associate the odours with a new car so a synthetic version would be very valuable to the car valeting business. However of the 3000 or so raw materials available to the perfumer none reproduces those odours. Even if they did, the perfume would be so complex as to be uncommercial to manufacture. The best they can manage is leathery smells because leather notes are a component of some masculine perfumes, so typically a new car smell isn't very realistic and costs too much for valeting products.

More technical bit: you could do a headspace analysis of the atmosphere inside a new car and you would find all kinds of molecules floating around, some of which you might even recognise on the chromatogram, but you wouldn't know how to buy those molecules commercially and in a form that was safe to use in your factory or spray into the air. They might be explosively unstable, poisonous, carginogenic or just horrendously rare and expensive; the H&S bods would have a field day with them.

Meh, just use a bike!!
 

Mad Doug Biker

I prefer animals to most people.
Location
Craggy Island
:sad: (*sniff*) (*wave of nostalgia*) (*sniff*) :sad:
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Yes, the 17.48 (I think) from Victoria to Dover and Ramsgate worked by the last 3 CEPs, 1197,98 and 99. It went right through all the nice odours of the fruit being grown in Kent it did on a glorious summer evening, and I'll never forget it!
 

bauldbairn

New Member
Location
Falkirk
The smell one of those small outboard engines for boats make, all petrol and smoke and not much moving! :biggrin:

Probably the smell of the two-stroke oil! That's one of my favourites - sadly too much fettling with Italian scooters in my teens left me able to tell if it is 2%(Vespa) or 4%(Lambretta)mix. :blush: :wacko: :thumbsup:

I also like all the old standards already mentioned - woodsmoke / coalfires / pine forest / lightning(ozone I believe?) / smoked kippers / smoked bacon and distilleries / maltings etc,etc.:tongue: :smile: :thumbsup:
 

bauldbairn

New Member
Location
Falkirk
Ironically, the last CEP left in service was number 1198, which Shephard Neame were originally going to preserve, seeing that they were from where it had ran all of it's life, and more crucially, because they had started brewing IN 1198.
Trains and beer, a great combination.
Yes, the 17.48 (I think) from Victoria to Dover and Ramsgate worked by the last 3 CEPs, 1197,98 and 99. It went right through all the nice odours of the fruit being grown in Kent it did on a glorious summer evening, and I'll never forget it!

Mad Doug - are you Fred Dibnah reincarnated??? :biggrin: :biggrin: :becool: :thumbsup:
 
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