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BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
mr Mag00 said:
unles s he drives a left hand drive i think you will find he was a passenger

I reckon you didn't look at the video angle properly, or read too well either:

jonny jeez said:
I drove about 6 miles with this guy in (or near) my vision and I was seriously impressed :eek:

Apologies for the use of a blackberry whilst driving


It's not right, but it's not as bad as talking on the phone since that has serious mental involvement in the remote conversation.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
Origamist said:
I was coming in from a similar location and the tailwind was tremendous this morning - I was almost spinning out on the flat.

Can JJ post a bikehike map.

I'm an old codger and I was whipping along at over 30 up the A46 between Evesham and Bidford on Avon with a 30 mph tailwind up my jacksee. On Tuesday.
 

Rhythm Thief

Legendary Member
Location
Ross on Wye
Brahan said:
I never want to see you complain about people using their phone whilst driving.

Fair point. How can it be justified to say:

Bent Mikey said:
It's not right, but it's not as bad as talking on the phone since that has serious mental involvement in the remote conversation.

when it's still something that takes away the driver's attention from the road? Especially as you'd play merry hell with any car driver you caught playing with a Blackberry while driving. It's not like it was hugely important to film this bloke cycling, in the great scheme of things.
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
Well I certainly wouldn't do it, and I think Jonny was a twit for doing the filming whilst driving, but it is a fair amount better than him talking on the phone given the difference in cognitive engagement. I don't think he'll dare to post something like that on here again, that's for sure. I also hope he'd never do anything like that again.

Can we perhaps not polarise this debate just for the sake of having an argument with me? Our points of view are not remarkably different, mind that often seems to lead to the most intense of arguments.
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
he must travel within four hundred yards of my front door. I'll have to watch out for him...
 

Rhythm Thief

Legendary Member
Location
Ross on Wye
BentMikey said:
Well I certainly wouldn't do it, and I think Jonny was a twit for doing the filming whilst driving, but it is a fair amount better than him talking on the phone given the difference in cognitive engagement. I don't think he'll dare to post something like that on here again, that's for sure. I also hope he'd never do anything like that again.

Can we perhaps not polarise this debate just for the sake of having an argument with me? Our points of view are not remarkably different, mind that often seems to lead to the most intense of arguments.

That's the irony:smile:. Fair enough, I'll leave it there.
 
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jonny jeez

Legendary Member
BentMikey said:
It's not right, but it's not as bad as talking on the phone since that has serious mental involvement in the remote conversation.

jonny jeez said:
Apologies for the use of a blackberry whilst driving, but I have about 8 shots of "no" footage as I was not looking at him, just shooting blind. I filmed him so that I could look later to see if his bike was "assisted" as he seems to be going so fast with hardly any effort at all and i was too busy concentrating on the road to take a good look.

Like I said, I was fully concentrating on Driving and not filming, I have plenty of footage of the sky etc, this was just one segment of a continuous blind shoot that I took as I didnt want to take my eyes off the road.

Also, my car is an auto, so I can drive with my left hand out to my side just as well as people who drive with a cigarrette in their hands (better I think as my blackberry does not drop hot ash)

The still shot was in a traffic jam at clapham and I was stationary.

You can take my word for it, I was super aware of concentrating on the car and not the vid.


also Mag00, did you delete your earlier post, I cant find it in the thread?
 

Rhythm Thief

Legendary Member
Location
Ross on Wye
jonny jeez said:
Like I said, I was fully concentrating on Driving and not filming, I have plenty of footage of the sky etc, this was just one segment of a continuous blind shoot that I took as I didnt want to take my eyes off the road.

Also, my car is an auto, so I can drive with my left hand out to my side just as well as people who drive with a cigarrette in their hands (better I think as my blackberry does not drop hot ash)

The still shot was in a traffic jam at clapham and I was stationary.

You can take my word for it, I was super aware of concentrating on the car and not the vid.

The point is (without wishing to prolong this debate) that these are all excuses commonly trotted out by drivers when they're caught on their phones, texting, making sandwiches, whatever. Videoing someone on a bike for the passing amusement of fellow forummers is hardly justifiable while you're driving, and if someone from, say, Pistonheads had posted a video they'd made while driving, we'd have been up in arms about it. It doesn't matter how carefully you did it or what the subject was: the fact remains you were filming while driving. This is not clever, and would normally attract unqualified condemnation on here.
 

rh100

Well-Known Member
Blimey Jonny, should have known better with this lot. Don't agree with using the phone whilst driving, guilty of it in the past myself but I get the point you wasn't giving it primary attention, we've all done something similar.

Just waiting for someone to say 'thou shalt never eat a sandwich at the wheel' or 'thou shalt never pick thy nose whilst driving'.
 
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