Knocked off bike this morning

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HobbesChoice

New Member
Location
Essex
It is frustrating that the police didn't question the "pothole" excuse. As many have already said, why phone the police when you believe you hit a pothole? Are the police really that stupid or against cyclists as to believe her?

I'm glad you're ok though, and I hope it is just that the wheel needs to be sorted out.
 
Sadly in incidents like this the police only take an interest if there is an injury. Otherwisw they would be absolutely snowed under investigating RTCs where careless driving is suspected.

It does not say in the OP that the lady concerned had phoned the police to report anything. The OP had given what details he had to the police and I would suspect they have contacted the driver by phone then re-contacted the OP to pass on details.

Not trying to defend her at all, merely trying to add a little clarity.
 

jonny jeez

Legendary Member
Earth, glad you are ok and also glad you are mindful to accept that some of the blame rests with you. well done.

that said, I couldn't agree more with others asking why she felt the need to report hitting a pot hole to the police....Hmmm

She knew she had hit and downed a cyclist, was "probably" on the phone or something at the time, didnt want to stop and was "probably" talked around by a friend or partner..."probably" the one she was on the phone to at the time.

Personally, I would want to talk to her and let her know that she had a very luck escape and then I'd put the whole thing down to experience, it was, after all partly your own fault...and like I say, well done for putting your hand up to that fact.

I dont like to "default" to litigattion on every issue, it makes it harder for those who have severe and more pressing claims to be heard.
 

jonny jeez

Legendary Member
fossyant said:
Pothole...

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Cyclist

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;):biggrin:
 
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earth

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addictfreak said:
Sadly in incidents like this the police only take an interest if there is an injury. Otherwisw they would be absolutely snowed under investigating RTCs where careless driving is suspected.

It does not say in the OP that the lady concerned had phoned the police to report anything. The OP had given what details he had to the police and I would suspect they have contacted the driver by phone then re-contacted the OP to pass on details.

Not trying to defend her at all, merely trying to add a little clarity.


The driver phoned the Police after I had. I know this because the license plate I gave them was wrong and they could not trace the car. They phoned me when the driver phoned them. They said she was on the other line. They knew from the description of the car that I gave and probably the location and time that it was the same incident.

I agree that if the driver phoned the Police after then they must have known what happened and felt guilty.

I think for future safety they should follow this up. To hit someone by accident is forgivable but to drive away when they clearly did know what had happened is not. I was still on the ground when they drove away. They did not check if I was Ok.
 
It's difficult to get the licence number.

At the time of my incident the other day I thought of it but the car sped off and round the corner a bit sharpish.I was going to get a pic if I could get close enough.
 
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earth

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She was on the wrong side of the road as well. I know because I make that turn everyday and I am always on the left side of the road. Today I would have been on the left side but her car was there instead! That's why I hit the off-side of her car. Because I was swerving out of the way but could not avoid her in time.
 

steve52

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as a car driver its her duty to take care not to hit cyclist, she would not have phoned the police unless she had known she hit u, and not a pothole,lie 1 and ofence 1 leaving the scean of an accident offence no 2 driving without due care, loads of soliciters will act for u for no fee , do it the time for apolages and a £20 note for the wheel is long gone
 
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earth

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Actually I have phoned CTC but I'm not a member (yet) so they would not help. I have tried Citizens Advice but there is no one there so finally I phoned a solicitor who deals with this but they said they only make personal injury claims. I'm not injured and I don't feel litigious. My bike is damaged though. They said I would have to pursue it as a criminal offense. Which I think it is really.

I would probably settle for talking to the person, explaining that there is no way I can see that they are in the right, and getting an apology.
 
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earth

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I just phoned the persons number and spoke to their husband. He said the women had the kids in the back, she got to work and was distraught that she thought she had hit a cyclist, but she had not seen me. He told her to phone the Police. Ironically her front number plate fell off when she hit me because it was cello-taped on. At the time I did not see that and I never returned to where it happened.

I'm clear now that I'm upset that they were not driving properly. They did see me and did not stop. I'm angry that the Police have not taken it seriously when it's clear that it was her fault and she didn't stop. I also recall when I cycled on the pavement last year and got fined - no one was hurt then either but I still got fined.

Anyway, just spoken to the Police about it again. The Policeman said he was a cyclist and a racer and a driver. You know what - couldn't care less. 'You will always have accidents with cars'. 'If no one is injured then there is nothing to report'. But that's not the point, she knew she had hit me, it wouldn't have happened if she was driving on the correct side of the road and she drove away.
 
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earth

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I don't want to share the roads with people who are allowed to drive as bad as they want until they cause injury to someone. Because by then it's too late.
 

Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
earth said:
I just phoned the persons number and spoke to their husband. He said the women had the kids in the back, she got to work and was distraught that she thought she had hit a cyclist, but she had not seen me. He told her to phone the Police. Ironically her front number plate fell off when she hit me because it was cello-taped on. At the time I did not see that and I never returned to where it happened.

I'm clear now that I'm upset that they were not driving properly. They did see me and did not stop. I'm angry that the Police have not taken it seriously when it's clear that it was her fault and she didn't stop. I also recall when I cycled on the pavement last year and got fined - no one was hurt then either but I still got fined.

Anyway, just spoken to the Police about it again. The Policeman said he was a cyclist and a racer and a driver. You know what - couldn't care less. 'You will always have accidents with cars'. 'If no one is injured then there is nothing to report'. But that's not the point, she knew she had hit me, it wouldn't have happened if she was driving on the correct side of the road and she drove away.

Likely story, he's probably a lardy 25 stone g1t who hasn't been near a bike since he was a nipper. I used to get that response when I reported incidents to the Met police back in the 1990s or the time I was stopped in Bell Green Sydenham by a cop car who thought I was cycling too fast. The fat WPC and her equally lardy male partner who got out the panda car waddling back to me where a very terse conversation ensued. I just couldn't stop laughing when she told me that she was a cyclist and they never cycled as fast as I did. Yeah right, you'd probably have a coronary more like it. No wonder any decent crim can out run or out cycle them.

Anyway earth, you need to contact plod again insisting on speaking to an inspector or making a formal complaint as offences have been committed 1)driving without due care and attention and 2)failing to stop and 3)the driver has made admissions, you are not happy that they the police are currently not taking this matter seriously.

If the value of damage to your bike is not that high then a solicitor won't take it on as it wouldn't be economically viable to do so as costs for representation cannot be recovered in the Small Claims Court which is where your case would be heard. SCC thresh holds are £5000 max for damage to property and £1,000 personal injury. If you had some PI and loss of earnings exceeding £1k then a solicitor may well take your case on as it could be heard in the County Court fast track where costs for representation can be recovered. Solicitor will take you on a conditional fee agreement.

I would advise get the details of her insurer, a full quote for repairs to your bike, then send it to her insurers with the police crime reference number, full account of what happened, map and pics. Request that payment be made within 14 days or however many you deam reasonable (28?). If payment is not forthcoming within this time you will bring proceedings to recover the amount you are claiming which may mean the insurer incurs further costs such as court fees and loss of use element and an amount for distress, pain and suffering caused you by being knocked off by their insured say £250.

Do you have legal expenses cover for instance with your bank account or mortgage as you could take advantage of this? Make sure their costs can be recovered from the other side which will be the case if she IS insured otherwise it could count against you as a fault claim.

Good luck.
 
If that happened to me, and the police showed no interest, I’d ask my MP for an explanation as to why the local police take no action against motorists involved in hit and run incidents… And knowing my MP (Vince Cable) he’d be more than happy to enquire about such matters – write to their constituency office - a polite but assertive letter – asking them to investigate on your behalf – to get clarification from the police as to why no action was taken - I guarantee you’ll get a response – remember they are there to help you in exactly this sort of circumstance.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
earth, that, unfortunately, is how it goes.....TBH the police are busy with real crims. and little sh1ts.........

Same with my accident, all I could do was report it, no 'crime reference' but at least it was 'noted'..... hurt means in bits............really...... The other party didn't go to the cops, but they admitted liability via insurance.

The Police are resource stretched..... sting them (i.e. the driver) with insurance 'hits' - i.e. it goes on their insurance record, even if for just a new front wheel.......

At least the driver's partner made them see sense......... go via insurance and get the bike repairs sorted, then at least the individual's premiums will go up....
 
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