Letter To BT

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bonj2

Guest
magnatom said:
It can work. Worked for me when I originally complained to First Buses. It meant action was taken swiftly and it eventually led to the firm taking part in the Give Cyclists Room campaign.

If it doesn't work, it won't take any longer than going by the normal route!

It'll have been because it was a good letter, not because it was addressed to the CEO.
Or possibly more likely, was offering opportunities to the company to big themselves up on TV what with you having the additional clout that goes with being a minor celebrity, and it'll have been escalated a bit.
But having any vague hope that the *chairman* of BT is going to be interested in a ruddy telephone pole in your garden that you consider looks in danger of falling down is a whole different kettle of fish.
 

bonj2

Guest
Mr Pig said:
I'm surprised the pole is still there to be honest. Their having to work around them as they're doing the ground works for the railway and they'll need to be removed soon anyway.

No, I'm afraid that's the nub of the problem. Your garden technically isn't worth saving.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Never thought I'd be saying this but I agree with Bonj, to a point. That point being that when addressed to the person at the top, it was done so with the knowledge that the chances of them actually reading it were slim.

As for not getting things done I'll have to disagree. When they(CEO) phone you to find out what your problem is its proof that they have been made aware of the problem.

Contact details for BT & BT Openreach will be available shortly.
 

bauldbairn

New Member
Location
Falkirk
Good Luck with your letter Mr Pig.:smile:

You might want to mention those trainers on the phone line in Kemper Avenue that your so fond of. I'm sure they get closer to the ground everytime I see them.:smile:
 

trsleigh

Well-Known Member
Location
Ealing
bonj2 said:
But having any vague hope that the *chairman* of BT is going to be interested in a ruddy telephone pole in your garden that you consider looks in danger of falling down is a whole different kettle of fish.

Agreed, he won't be interested in Mr Pig's pole, but surely the point is that the organisation below him has failed to do what he pays them to do.
 

Cab

New Member
Location
Cambridge
Mr. Pig, contact your local council and talk to their environmental health/environmental services team. If this pole represents a serious hazard then it needs dealing with, the local authorities can presumably look at this.

Next port of call after that would be the local paper, and a solicitor.
 
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Mr Pig

Mr Pig

New Member
bauldbairn said:
Good Luck with your letter Mr Pig.:smile:

You might want to mention those trainers on the phone line in Kemper Avenue that your so fond of. I'm sure they get closer to the ground everytime I see them.:smile:

Naa, I like those :0)

The massive machines they're using out there I'm surprised they haven't knocked this pole down. Next doors garage has a crack up the back of it and the back garden wall is leaning over.

Still no word from BT.
 

Cab

New Member
Location
Cambridge
bonj2 said:
I used to work for Dixons contact centre...

And you're using that as an example of how typical companies handle customer relations?

Of all of the companies I have ever dealt with in any way for any thing at any time, none come close to Dixons for ineptness and poor customer service, nor do any come even vaguely close for an incapacity to deal with complaints.

When I've had a complaint with Barclays bank I could find someone with board level access to help deal with it. When I've had complaints with Virgin Media I could resolve those with some difficulty, but I could at least resolve them; the letters addressed to board members did facilitate a far faster and more efficient response than I was otherwise able to obtain.

Do you lose anything by addressing letters to the CEO of any reasonable company? Of course not.
 

Panter

Just call me Chris...
Mr Pig said:
So I gave up and decided to mail you instead. Maybe you'll be able to communicate with the relevant people quickly enough to stop this pole crashing onto my properly, I don't know. However I do know who'll be paying for the damage if it does! There are two garden sheds directly in its flight path and numerous cars and vans under the birds nest of wires. Add the possibility of the pole or flying cables hitting people, including my children, and I think it would be best if you did manage to sort this out.

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Just pointing this out in case you haven't sent it yet, not to be pedantic ;)

Nice letter, good luck!
 

bonj2

Guest
trsleigh said:
Agreed, he won't be interested in Mr Pig's pole, but surely the point is that the organisation below him has failed to do what he pays them to do.

Problem is though, it isn't commercially advantageous for them to do what he pays them to do. So they don't.
 

bonj2

Guest
Cab said:
And you're using that as an example of how typical companies handle customer relations?

Of all of the companies I have ever dealt with in any way for any thing at any time, none come close to Dixons for ineptness and poor customer service, nor do any come even vaguely close for an incapacity to deal with complaints.
It'll have gone massively downhill since it got took over by Crapita.
Fortunately I left just before that, in 2002.
But if you'd have got a letter through to me then you would have got good customer service. If you'd have written a good letter, and explained your case correctly, and had actually bothered to write properly, then you would have got what you deserved.
But, and I'm not saying this is the case with you, but the problem a lot of the time is that people's definition of 'customer service' is 'getting what I want'.
For instance one of the most popular thing I had to deal with is people wanting a refund for their coverplan (after sales warranty). A lot had a genuine story about how they'd no longer got the item and could they please have a pro-rata refund. Yes, no problem.
But a lot would get on the high horse from the word go, were 6 months in, and would launch into an epic diatribe about how they were 'mis-sold' it and wanted a full refund of everything they'd paid for it from day 1. No, sorry. They got politely told to bugger off.
I did also have sympathy with any tales of being messed around by engineers and would be fairly trigger-happy on the '£20 gesture of goodwill' button, and I would also be fairly good at spotting cases where somebody had something that had had to be repaired multiple times and would normally be fairly trigger-happy on the 'refund/replacement' button.

When I've had a complaint with Barclays bank I could find someone with board level access to help deal with it.
You haven't though - you've had a response from someone who *says they've got board level access.

When I've had complaints with Virgin Media I could resolve those with some difficulty, but I could at least resolve them; the letters addressed to board members did facilitate a far faster and more efficient response than I was otherwise able to obtain.

Do you lose anything by addressing letters to the CEO of any reasonable company? Of course not.

No, but do you *seriously think* that board members actually spend all day reading customers' letters? Extrapolate it to the whole country - if you address letters to board members - you're no different to anybody else, lots of other people do as well. So therefore they get thousands of letters a day addressed to board members.
They just have an 'executive post' team to handle these letters. In my experience, this is just the slightly more experienced ones out of the normal customer service advisors.
All you need to do is to send it by registered post so they can't deny having received it, and set out your demands of what they are legally obliged to do. And then if they don't do it, you sue. You shouldn't need to plead with them, or appeal to their better nature - because companies generally don't have any.
 
bonj2 said:
Or possibly more likely, was offering opportunities to the company to big themselves up on TV what with you having the additional clout that goes with being a minor celebrity, and it'll have been escalated a bit.

I'm a minor celebrity!? Excellent, I've always wanted to be on I'm a Celebrity get me out of Here! ;)
 

Cab

New Member
Location
Cambridge
bonj2 said:

No, really, wrong. You have no idea about who it was, how I found their contact details, what the nature of the complaint was, how it was resolved, or anything else.
 
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