Life Sentence for murder with a car (Birmingham)
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Arjimlad
Tights of Cydonia
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- South Glos
About time too
Drago
Legendary Member
- Location
- Suburban Poshshire
Good.
Although, dare I say it, the uninsured and unlicenced rider of the high performance electric motorbike (it was a Surron type machine, not in any way an ebike as some outlets are reporting it) equally didn't give a monkeys about anyone else.
It's but for the grace of the big feller upstairs that a genuine innocent (by virtue of being law abiding) person didn't get mowed down by one of these two eejuts.
Although, dare I say it, the uninsured and unlicenced rider of the high performance electric motorbike (it was a Surron type machine, not in any way an ebike as some outlets are reporting it) equally didn't give a monkeys about anyone else.
It's but for the grace of the big feller upstairs that a genuine innocent (by virtue of being law abiding) person didn't get mowed down by one of these two eejuts.
BrumJim
Forum Stalwart (won't take the hint and leave...)
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- Selly Oak, Birmingham
The victim statement certainly leads you to the conclusion that the victims were not doing themselves any favours, but any society where people can get killed, with our without due process, just for being anti-social twerps (and braking the laws on insurance, license, etc) is not a civilised one.
Very glad they have gone away for a long time, and that the "but I was only driving a car" mitigation does not appear to have had any effect.
Very glad they have gone away for a long time, and that the "but I was only driving a car" mitigation does not appear to have had any effect.
Drago
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Oh indeed, he didn't deserve that.
Nevertheless, my sympathy is tempered by the fact that it's pure happenstance that the wheelie-popping unlivenced and uninsured motorbike rider didn't himself kill someone.
When one indulges in criminal behaviour one doesn't really have grounds to complain when someone else's criminal behaviour catches them out. The law can't protect people who themselves choose not to abide by it.
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wiggydiggy
Legendary Member
You can say it, and I agree, but he didn't deserve to be hunted down and driven over. I'd have settled for a tar and feathering.
I say hunted as well because Abdirahman Ibrahim saw them, was annoyed by them, and then turned around to follow them and run Liam Jones down.
Drago
Legendary Member
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- Suburban Poshshire
He certainly didnt, and I never stated otherwise.
Nevertheless, road criminal-on-criminal doesn't get me so excited. You sleep with dogs, you'll catch fleas sooner or later.
He didn't deserve it. Nevertheless, it was entirely within his gift to have instead been behaving in a law abiding manner that day, in which case he woudn't have fallen foul of a fellow road criminal and would likely still be alive.
Actions. Consequences.
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markemark
Veteran
What about people chucking rocks off motorway bridges at cars going too fast. If they had been obeying the speed limit the rocks would not have hit the car as they would have been a few meters back. Their lawbreaking contributed to their demise. Do these drivers have tempered sympathy?
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- Glasgow
Sorry, but where/how did you see the stone throwers targeting cars going too fast?
Ime the thugs just target cars, whatever their speed.
That's what they do here anyway, and not only from motorway bridges.
wiggydiggy
Legendary Member
I know you didn't, but the original article doesn't even say if his bike was illegal. Just that he pulled a wheelie and acted in a way that Abdirahman Ibrahim decided was worth chasing him and running him down.
oxoman
Well-Known Member
Anyone that throws rocks of bridges deserves being thrown of the bridge themselves. Local 999 ambulance driver lost his site after kids threw a slab off a bridge on the A38 and it went through his screen. Not only his sight but his livelihood / career. Anybody that uses a vehicle to attack a cyclist should have the book thrown at them. As to people on affectively e motorbikes that cause problems should also get the book thrown at them. Personally I think the old saying live by the sword then die by the sword kind of fits.
