Angelfishsolo
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Wonder if it is to discourage thieves?
'Limited to 70mph'
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HLaB
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I saw one of them the other day and thought the exact same, limited to the maximum (barring legal maximum 110%=2mph, 79mph) what a load of tosh
Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
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- Cwmbach, South Wales
I always though it was 10% so 77mph was acceptable is caught on camera?
I saw one of them the other day and thought the exact same, limited to the maximum (barring legal maximum 110%=2mph, 79mph) what a load of tosh
cloggsy
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- North Yorkshire
Nope. Vans and minibuses on National Speed Limit single carriageways have a speed limit of 50mph!
Clarification of national speed limits for vans
It is very important for drivers to bear in mind that vans (and all goods vehicles not exceeding 7.5 tonnes) are subject to lower national speed limits than cars on both single and dual carriageway roads.
Whilst a car may travel at up to 60 mph on single carriageways and 70 mph on dual carriageways vans are only allowed to travel up to 50 mph on single carriageway roads and 60 mph on dual carriageway roads.
[Remember that the speed limits quoted here are national limits, a lower speed limit will apply in built up areas and on many local roads. Where a lower speed limit is signed you must comply with those lower limits].
HLaB
Marie Attoinette Fan
We had folk in at our uni from the A67 SPECS cameras (average speed) and their system only brought drivers to prosecution for 110% + 2mph, I've also seen this on Gardai forms and other places, to generous IMO and given the generous leeway anybody caught speeding isn't just going a little too fast they are going way too fast.
Angelfishsolo
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- Cwmbach, South Wales
cloggsy
Boardmanist
- Location
- North Yorkshire
This is an old wives tail I'm afraid; you can get done doing anything over the speed limit with the accuracy of the laser speed indicators that the Police use now; even 1mph. That being said, it would have to be a really anal copper to do you for that! As we all know, they're out there!
I also know someone who's just been done going through the average speed limit cameras on the A1 roadworks - the first person I'd ever heard of being done using the average speed cameras...
I don't think it's too bad, it's just the chances of getting caught. After knowing about how bad things are in North Yorkshire for years, I was exasperated yesterday by the praise on the news for North Yorkshire Police finally leaving the stone age and getting a speed camera - yesterday. It's ridiculous in some places.
Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
- Location
- Cwmbach, South Wales
HLaB's post must refer to older cameras then?
You really have to be not paying attention to get done by an Average Speed camera.
You really have to be not paying attention to get done by an Average Speed camera.
HLaB
Marie Attoinette Fan
IIRC the cameras were installed 3-4 years ago.
Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
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- Cwmbach, South Wales
Maybe this is a case of will prosecute if over the 110% +2 v's could prosecute if >speed limit but <110% +2
HLaB
Marie Attoinette Fan
Could well be :-)
cloggsy
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- North Yorkshire
Angelfishsolo
A Velocipedian
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- Cwmbach, South Wales
MGBLemonrider
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- Stevenage, Herts
I believe
Speedos used to have to have the accuracy requirement of +/- 10%.
It has changed to +10% (I can't be bothered to look up the date of implementation)
guide lines added the +2mph, perhaps because the increments on the dial.
So 10% would cover the inaccuracy which may be inherent in your speedo, which anecdotal would over read, One could roll along at an indicated
84mph and still be under a real 77mph which could be allowed for an under reading speedo.
Therefore people got used to driving at an indicated 85mph (cascades down through other limits)
Therefore ACPO guidelines were to verbal warn for 10% +2 mph - this would be in the area allowed for by equipment error and never secure a conviction at court if contested.
Once the non under reading speedos came out the above guideline becomes untenable under the threat of legal challenges by road safety organisations so is dropped, and opens up prosecution for simple excess of the posted limit.
However people have been conditioned to expect to getting away with exceeding the limits by 20% - Human nature pushing boundaries etc.
I may be wrong - but don't tell my children
Speedos used to have to have the accuracy requirement of +/- 10%.
It has changed to +10% (I can't be bothered to look up the date of implementation)
guide lines added the +2mph, perhaps because the increments on the dial.
So 10% would cover the inaccuracy which may be inherent in your speedo, which anecdotal would over read, One could roll along at an indicated
84mph and still be under a real 77mph which could be allowed for an under reading speedo.
Therefore people got used to driving at an indicated 85mph (cascades down through other limits)
Therefore ACPO guidelines were to verbal warn for 10% +2 mph - this would be in the area allowed for by equipment error and never secure a conviction at court if contested.
Once the non under reading speedos came out the above guideline becomes untenable under the threat of legal challenges by road safety organisations so is dropped, and opens up prosecution for simple excess of the posted limit.
However people have been conditioned to expect to getting away with exceeding the limits by 20% - Human nature pushing boundaries etc.
I may be wrong - but don't tell my children
