List of those hanged at Newgate Prison
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swee'pea99
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MURPHY, Christian * 1789 18 Mar * (or BOWMAN) A woman;
Strangled and burnt for
coining
HATFIELD, John 1803 03 Sep (a rank imposter, who
married, by means
of the most odious deceit,
the celbrated "Beauty of
Buttermere").Forgery;
HOLLOWAY, John 1807 23 Feb Murder of Mr. STEELE; Old
Bailey. 28 of the spectators were trodden to death
MURPHY, Christian * 1789 18 Mar * (or BOWMAN) A woman;
Strangled and burnt for
coining
HATFIELD, John 1803 03 Sep (a rank imposter, who
married, by means
of the most odious deceit,
the celbrated "Beauty of
Buttermere").Forgery;
HOLLOWAY, John 1807 23 Feb Murder of Mr. STEELE; Old
Bailey. 28 of the spectators were trodden to death
RedRider
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Good stuff there GoG. one of my favourite things about London is the wealth of recorded history about its places and people.
I did a bit of work in some homeless hostels where we researched family history (and local history for those without British ancestry) all mixed in with a bit of psychogeography and walking.
This is a great resource for info about London streets and places. The page I've linked to mentions Coldbath Fields Prison which stood by the Fleet where the Royal Mail sorting office is now. Prisoners would grind flour on a treadmill all day and detention was a virtual death sentence. Meanwhile, nearby Spa Fields hosted debauched and drunken festivities.
I did a bit of work in some homeless hostels where we researched family history (and local history for those without British ancestry) all mixed in with a bit of psychogeography and walking.
This is a great resource for info about London streets and places. The page I've linked to mentions Coldbath Fields Prison which stood by the Fleet where the Royal Mail sorting office is now. Prisoners would grind flour on a treadmill all day and detention was a virtual death sentence. Meanwhile, nearby Spa Fields hosted debauched and drunken festivities.
[QUOTE 3037093, member: 1314"]Blimey.[/QUOTE]
As I said above, The Tyburn hangings were massive social events, as well as personal ones. SOme hangings attracted crowds worthy of a Premier League match today
At the time there was a belief that if you were "anatomised" by the local Surgeons then you would be unable to go to Heaven.
There would be fights between the families and the anatomists for the bodies. Also there would be fights for the positions to hear the last words of a famous miscreant.
(This ability to address the crowds gave rise to "free speech and Speakers Corner is a direct descendant of the Tyburn speeches as it is though that Marble arch was the site of the tree)
There was also the belief in magical powers attached to the relics of hanged men, so their bodies were a valuable commodity
Prostitution, pick pocketing, sales of "penny dreadfuls" and a wole lot of other misdemeanours and crime was a fetaure of these gatherings.
Allegedly the route to Tyburn was raucous and often stopped at Alehouses on teh way for a drink. One unfortunate though would have to remain sober and "on the wagon" hence the saying.
"One for the road" has also been attributed to the Tyburn route
As I said above, The Tyburn hangings were massive social events, as well as personal ones. SOme hangings attracted crowds worthy of a Premier League match today
At the time there was a belief that if you were "anatomised" by the local Surgeons then you would be unable to go to Heaven.
There would be fights between the families and the anatomists for the bodies. Also there would be fights for the positions to hear the last words of a famous miscreant.
(This ability to address the crowds gave rise to "free speech and Speakers Corner is a direct descendant of the Tyburn speeches as it is though that Marble arch was the site of the tree)
There was also the belief in magical powers attached to the relics of hanged men, so their bodies were a valuable commodity
Prostitution, pick pocketing, sales of "penny dreadfuls" and a wole lot of other misdemeanours and crime was a fetaure of these gatherings.
Allegedly the route to Tyburn was raucous and often stopped at Alehouses on teh way for a drink. One unfortunate though would have to remain sober and "on the wagon" hence the saying.
"One for the road" has also been attributed to the Tyburn route
swee'pea99
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Watching a programme last night about the Messiah performed at the London Foundling Hospital, as mentioned on another thread by Marmion, in which one of the academic speaking heads said that before the hospital was founded, other than dying on the street, the only refuge for abandoned babies (of which London had over 2000 a year) was the workhouse; but the death rate for babies that went to the workhouse was 95%. The Good Old Days, eh?
numbnuts
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This thread is dead......OK I'll get me coat
We could vote, but there is a real chance that the vote could be very close and we would get a hung decision
Andrew_Culture
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People used to get bung for clipping coins? Lummy!
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[QUOTE 3037108, member: 1314"]The first ones on the list:
Gunpowder plot conspirators, executed in London on this date.
DIGBY, R 1606, 30 Jan
WINTER, 1606 30 Jan
GRANT, 1606 30 Jan
BATES, 1606 30 Jan
WINTER, T 1606 31 Jan
ROOKWOOD, 1606 31 Jan
KEYS, 1606 31 Jan
FAWKES 1606 31 Jan[/QUOTE]
Maximum - 4 per day?
Gunpowder plot conspirators, executed in London on this date.
DIGBY, R 1606, 30 Jan
WINTER, 1606 30 Jan
GRANT, 1606 30 Jan
BATES, 1606 30 Jan
WINTER, T 1606 31 Jan
ROOKWOOD, 1606 31 Jan
KEYS, 1606 31 Jan
FAWKES 1606 31 Jan[/QUOTE]
Maximum - 4 per day?
Andrew_Culture
Internet Marketing bod
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Pre-privatisation.
twentysix by twentyfive
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So many from around the country. Was hanging centralised - none in the "provinces"?
twentysix by twentyfive
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[QUOTE 3037294, member: 1314"]It's actually quite a misleading title on the link. Where the region is named, that's where the execution took place.[/QUOTE]
Ah - that makes more sense.
Ah - that makes more sense.
jayonabike
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[QUOTE 3037082, member: 1314"]
1868 - O'Farrell: For attempting to assassinate the Duke of Edinburgh.
Blimey.[/QUOTE]
I new he was old, but not that old. He looks well for his age.
1868 - O'Farrell: For attempting to assassinate the Duke of Edinburgh.
Blimey.[/QUOTE]
I new he was old, but not that old. He looks well for his age.
Again slightly OT, but forgive me...
Many of the crimes that were punishabe by death seem minor now, but were seen as far more serious back then.
Clipping of coins was considered so as it debased the value of a coin, rendering it worth less and also if it became rife would lead to undermining of the currency as a whole.
It was at this time considered an Act of High Treason. Hence the death sentence
Again a bit of useless information.... The milling of coin edges,and engraving of the face right to the edge was introduced in the 1600s
The phrase "Decus et Tutamen" (Ornament and Safeguard) that is still used on the pound coin was introduced for this reason making its first appearance in the late 1660s
Many of the crimes that were punishabe by death seem minor now, but were seen as far more serious back then.
Clipping of coins was considered so as it debased the value of a coin, rendering it worth less and also if it became rife would lead to undermining of the currency as a whole.
It was at this time considered an Act of High Treason. Hence the death sentence
Again a bit of useless information.... The milling of coin edges,and engraving of the face right to the edge was introduced in the 1600s
The phrase "Decus et Tutamen" (Ornament and Safeguard) that is still used on the pound coin was introduced for this reason making its first appearance in the late 1660s
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