Locks

[mr_cellophane]

Are these worth the money compared to a D-lock ?

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Abus_Bordo_90cm_Folding_Lock/5360028496/

 

[John the Monkey]

It's sold secure bronze rated.

Sold Secure is an imperfect measure, but I'd still be happier with something rated gold (and dependant on the value of your bike, your insurer may insist on it). And that means D-locks, for the most part.

 

[Alun]

Theres a test here http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/accessories/locks/product/bordo-folding-lock-16372
It was tested in Cycling Plus, I think the above is a summary. Some, but not all D locks were better. I liked the look of the Abus Chain O Steel also tested by Cycling Plus.

 

[simon_adams_uk]

I've had one for the last 18 months (longer length version) - generally I've been happy with it. Yes, it's not as good as a D lock but I have been happy to trade off security against convenience (ie compact and light-ish).

Maybe try and find this model?
http://www.abus.de/us/main.asp?Scre...06146251&select=0104b11&artikel=4003318450532
According to Abus it offers the same level of protection as a hardcore D lock...

HTH,
S

 

[e-rider]

it's more convenient to carry and lighter but at the expense of strength - simple!

if it's a high crime area (ie. any city centre in UK & Europe) and an expensive bike you'd be crazy to consider it unless you have a good insurance policy and don't mind waiting 6 months for a new bike!

 

[e-rider]

bolt croppers make light work of all locks except tough d-locks (for some insane reason sold secure don't test locks against bolt croppers)

The main way to break a d-lock is using a stubby hydraulic jack. This requires some space to be available inside the bars so if you fit it with something - ie. bike frame, lamppost wheel etc it makes life very difficult for the theives.

 

[fossyant]

I use a Bordo in conjunction with a Gold standard D - the Bordo is used to secure front wheel and frame to stand. The D does rear triangle and rear wheel to stand. Pretty good as a portable lock as an addition to a Gold D.

I use the Bordo at 'other sites'. At my main base, I have the 'D' and a gold rated chain.

 

[mr_cellophane]

I had a look in Evans on my way home. The Kryptonite New York, which BikeRadar rates top, is so much heavier than a comparable rated ABUS D lock. It does look more sturdy though.

 

[Llama]

get a d lock- ive got a trelock bs510 from decathlon £30 (sold secure silver)

 

[Crankarm]

I had a look in Evans on my way home. The Kryptonite New York, which BikeRadar rates top, is so much heavier than a comparable rated ABUS D lock. It does look more sturdy though.

I wouldn't touch Kryptonite with a barge pole after their ease of opening farce with a BIC biro a few years ago. I lost a bike because of this breathtaking over site and I had one of their top model heavy supposedly secure New Yorker D-locks. Krptonite have never compensated me. I read a post the other week either on this or another forum where a much newer New York Krptonite D-lock was easily opened so Krptonite are still not making secure locks IMHO. For me it as ABUS Granit X Plus all the way. They are GOLD secure rated. I carry two, one for each wheel, front and back. I have much greater confidence that my bike will still be there when I get back than with a Kryptonite lock. Carrying two is also great for training .

 

[e-rider]

yes, but the bic pen issue was with that style of lock barrel with was used on loads of security devices of the time (those circular keys) and most d locks by most brands, lucily you don't see them much now!

 

[Crankarm]

But this recent post I read by some one with a new New Yorker Kryptonite D-lock was opened extremely easily as well and bike taken . So no, Kryptonite have not got their act together IMHO. Once bitten twice shy. ABUS all the way for me.

 

[Joe24]

Id love one of those locks thats perminantly on the back of the bike, and you slide the metal bar through the spokes and take the key out and go, like what they have on most bikes in Holland.
That would be so nice, jump off my bike, stand it up agaisnt something and put the lock on and walk off.
But it wouldnt work here, some little shoot would steal the bike by picking it up, or trying to ride it and wrecking the back wheel

 

[Crankarm]

Why carry two locks? Can't you take a wheel off and lock it all together?

I carry two as my bike is a very decent specced touring bike with hand built wheels. I do not want to lose it even though it is insured.

Taking the front wheel off is too much hassle and anyway carrying two means I have one in each pannier which means the bike is balanced. Plus there is the added deterent of 2 locks on the bike when I leave it. It might add a bit more weight but the piece of mind is worth it. Hopefully thieves are going to think twice before bothering to try to nick mine with 2 Gold rated long arm Abus Granit X Pluses securing it when they could easily take other bikes which are secured by nothing more than those useless flexi cables which could be cut with a pair of decent pliers. Anyway don't really want to dwell too much on it, as well you know, one doesn't want to tempt fate .

 

[Crankarm]

Id love one of those locks thats perminantly on the back of the bike, and you slide the metal bar through the spokes and take the key out and go, like what they have on most bikes in Holland.
That would be so nice, jump off my bike, stand it up agaisnt something and put the lock on and walk off.
But it wouldnt work here, some little shoot would steal the bike by picking it up, or trying to ride it and wrecking the back wheel

I've seen a few bikes like these in Amsterdam where it is obvious thieves have tried to nick them as the lock is broken or they have tried to ride them breaking the spokes. Holland isn't quite a cycling Utopia.