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vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
£85 a month. Its only that cheap because it relies on driving with a driver who has held a license for over 24 years.

Is that:

A) How much extra you are costing to be added to your mother's insurance?

or

B) How much you'd have to pay driving a care owned by you providing you had another driver (your mum?) with 24 years' experience with you thus effectively restricting your liberty when you want to nip out to see your girlfriend unbeknown to your parents?

or

C) Something totally different?
 

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
Is that:

A) How much extra you are costing to be added to your mother's insurance?

or

B) How much you'd have to pay driving a care owned by you providing you had another driver (your mum?) with 24 years' experience with you thus effectively restricting your liberty when you want to nip out to see your girlfriend unbeknown to your parents?

or

C) Something totally different?
I dont know. I am not really thinking about getting insurance immediately due to me having lessons in June so I will plan a months insurance just before that so that I at least know the basics of operating the car.
There is a problem with my mums handbrake though. It doesnt work the best so her car might not be to a good standard to learn in. However, the car that I would be taking lessons in isnt exactly brand new.
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
I dont know. I am not really thinking about getting insurance immediately due to me having lessons in June so I will plan a months insurance just before that so that I at least know the basics of operating the car.
There is a problem with my mums handbrake though. It doesnt work the best so her car might not be to a good standard to learn in. However, the car that I would be taking lessons in isnt exactly brand new.

Matthew, you are in for a shock when it comes to getting insurance in your own name even when you leave it for a couple of years after passing. I hope that you get a well paid job when you graduate. The newness of a car is not an indicator of its suitability for lessons.
 

Cheddar George

oober member
Its car parks and the such that I intend to drive on. I need to get used to starting and stopping the car first. My mum is a good driver (IMO) and I think that she is the better person to learn with (patience etc).

I have watched loads of videos on YT from approved driving instructors and institutions and I would hope that I know quite a bit already, it is just putting it into practice now.

Thats the best way to do it. A few times with your mum to learn how to pull away and select a gear and then proper lessons to learn how to drive pass the test.
 
Get lessons first, mum 2nd. It just takes one moment of confusion/panic to lose control, it's not like playing GTA4 or something, especially if the handbrake won't stop you.
 

Night Train

Maker of Things
I would also say get some lessons first, lots of them, before driving your Mum's car.

Having taught quite a few people to drive it is frustrating when someone who has 'had a go in Mum or Dad's car' seem to think their parent knows more about how to drive then the instructor!

I remember as a teen watching a neighbour trying to teach another neighbour how to drive. The car was at the end of a cul-de-sac on a council estate. The learner full throttled it and reversed into the corner of a brick wall, then shot forward smashing the front end into the brick wall ballustrade to a walk up block. The car was written off all within the first 2 minutes of 'the lesson'.

Don't forget Matthew, learn to drive, don't just learn to pass a test.
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
Thats the best way to do it. A few times with your mum to learn how to pull away and select a gear and then proper lessons to learn how to drive pass the test.

I'm with this chap. Learn to basically start and stop and work the car before paying out a load for instruction. Once I'd got the basic hang of driving I was made to drive more or less everywhere, so I'd got hundreds of miles in before taking lessons or doing a test. Unless you're a real nobber, the dual brakes thing isn't really an issue in my humble opinion. Not saying driving's easy but use some sense and do as your mum says ! Presumably you're not going to drive round town in the rush hour till you can basically start, stop & steer anyway. Lessons is for the tricky stuff like reversing and so on.
 

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
I'm with this chap. Learn to basically start and stop and work the car before paying out a load for instruction. Once I'd got the basic hang of driving I was made to drive more or less everywhere, so I'd got hundreds of miles in before taking lessons or doing a test. Unless you're a real nobber, the dual brakes thing isn't really an issue in my humble opinion. Not saying driving's easy but use some sense and do as your mum says ! Presumably you're not going to drive round town in the rush hour till you can basically start, stop & steer anyway. Lessons is for the tricky stuff like reversing and so on.
Thats exactly what I had in mind. My mum is a bit worried about me taking my theory so soon and has told me to get a book of the highway code or similar to learn from (going into town later). I am doing my theory on the 2nd April (so it isnt that soon).

Al I want from my parents is to teach me the basics. Everything else I can learn in the lessons. It just means that I will cut about two hours out of the lessons if I already know how to make the car move and stop. I seriously doubt that in a car park whilst driving at 5mph I will lose control.
 

Night Train

Maker of Things
To be honest, Matthew, a ton of metal and best part of 100 horses under your right foot and I wouldn't like to be in that car park.

Have you checked the insurance situation should you hit something or someone? Have you the car park owner's permission to practice on their private land?

For the sake of the first hour's proper training I think you are behaving foolishly.

Given how much you like slagging off drivers on the road you are not showing yourself to be any better.

LEARN TO DRIVE PROPERLY WITH A PROFESSIONAL INSTRUCTOR FROM THE START!
 

aces_up1504

Well-Known Member
Why are you doing your theory now? Don't you have a year to pass from the date of your theory these days. Running before walking comes to mind
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
Everyso often I do the online sample theory tests, to check my knowledge. I have to say, I think anyone who fails it shouldn't be allowed to learn to drive at all! Signs are mostly self explanatory, or very easily learnt via the Highway Code, and most of the questions are just common sense, if you bother to think.

In addition, anyone who answers the question about what to do if elderly people are still on a crossing when the lights change to green with the choice "Rev the engine and hoot to hurry them up" should be barred from driving AND having children.

(I will admit to not getting full marks - I usually fall down on one question. For example I don't remember braking distances - when I drive, I rely on the two second or more rule, and caution).

I learned with an instructor first, and found it helpful for the first lesson, that he operated the clutch and gears while I just had to accelerate and brake when he told me to - I got used to the speed and feel of the car without trying to think about the gears. Personally, I'd go for professional lessons first, with Mum's car for experience between lessons later on.
 
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