Lost Prophets - is it still ok to listen to their stuff?

[ColinJ]

As for the cocaine riff, that is of course a whole different issue. But has it ever occurred that the reason people who get murdered over cocaine get murdered is purely because of its legal status, as defined by organisations which receive vast sums from manufacturers of that other ever-popular party juice (which, in passing, kills vastly greater numbers directly every year than cocaine ever does) - alcohol.

The reason that people get murdered is because other people decide to murder them. Yes, the fact that the killers get rich from murdering them is a consequence of the drug laws.

I actually believe that all drugs should be legalised for adults and the money currently spent on ineffective policing of drug laws should be spent trying to educate people that drug use really isn't a great idea.

 

[Beebo]

Nothing. But when you can afford to settle out of court, I suppose you're allowed to do what you want.

IIRC it was a civil, not criminal matter. there wasn't enough evidence to go through a criminal court, so the parents when for a civil action and MJ's insurers just paid up without prejudice to liability to make to go away.

 

[Fnaar]

their back catalougue will now be worthless, which is a shame for the other band members.

That's what occurred to me, too... any royalties they might have got will probably not be very much any more. I wonder if they can sue him for lost earnings.

 

[AndyRM]

what kind of parent would take an out of court payment, leaving the evil fiend to continue his devious ways?

You'd have to ask them.

 

[Linford]

Who ?

 

[theclaud]

This is the old can you enjoy Wagner if you're Jewish schpeil. I think it's a fair while since the consensus among thinking jews is that yes, it's ok.

 

[theclaud]

I propose that the rest of this thread is conducted in Gill Sans.

 

[dan_bo]

That's what occurred to me, too... any royalties they might have got will probably not be very much any more. I wonder if they can sue him for lost earnings.

Lost profits indeed.

As an aside, I haven't thumbed my way through my Roy Harper collection for a few weeks now......Think i'll back off that one for a bit.

 

[Dusty Bin]

I'd never heard of the Lost Prophets until this horrible story. I definitely won't be listening to them in the future.

That's kind of the point I was making. It's not the rest of the band's fault...

 

[Rob3rt]

They should reform under a different name, go back to their roots and let the DJ do the vocals this time round, then they might be somewhere halfway decent! Their finest moment was "The Handsome Life of Swing"! Coincidently it was probably their heaviest track and featured a lot of screaming from the DJ!


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PT-wBflSa0

 

[Fnaar]

Jeez, if that's anything to go by, the rest of the band are well out of it, and should re-group, basing their new ouevre on those wholesome boys from Haircut 100.

 

[swee'pea99]

The reason that people get murdered is because other people decide to murder them. Yes, the fact that the killers get rich from murdering them is a consequence of the drug laws.

I actually believe that all drugs should be legalised for adults and the money currently spent on ineffective policing of drug laws should be spent trying to educate people that drug use really isn't a great idea.

Any law that creates a situation where vast sums are to be made with relatively little effort, talent or application is likely to generate turf wars. Note 'law that creates'. I really don't think much is to be gained from such 'education'. I'd rather see the money spent on things like hospitals and schools myself.

 

[ColinJ]

I really don't think much is to be gained from such 'education'. I'd rather see the money spent on things like hospitals and schools myself.

I had in mind that the education would be done in schools, and it would not be 'Just say no'!

Anyway - it is unlikely ever to happen because politicians will be afraid to suggest it.

 

[swee'pea99]

I had in mind that the education would be done in schools, and it would not be 'Just say no'!

Anyway - it is unlikely ever to happen because politicians will be afraid to suggest it.

I agree - 'electoral suicide' is a phrase that comes to mind. But as to more than 'just say no', I think anything that counts as education has to start from a more open minded premise than 'drug use really isn't a great idea'. Who's to say that in the right circumstances it can be a very good idea indeed. Ask Ian Dury. Ok, bad example...

 

[ColinJ]

I agree - 'electoral suicide' is a phrase that comes to mind. But as to more than 'just say no', I think anything that counts as education has to start from a more open minded premise than 'drug use really isn't a great idea'. Who's to say that in the right circumstances it can be a very good idea indeed. Ask Ian Dury. Ok, bad example...

I have already decided that if I am ever told that I have a terminal illness, then at some point I will indulge in any recreational drugs that I feel like trying. Who cares if that means that I only suffer for 10 weeks instead of 12 - at least I might die with a smile on my face! I watched both of my parents die in a miserable state over a period of months, and I will not go through that myself. (If the illness is so bad that I can't even stand the 10 weeks, then I'll throw caution to the winds and go out over a weekend, stoned out of what is left of my brains.)