Love my AirZound

[fossyant]

I still think it is great and I'm happy with my riding to ;-)

 

[fossyant]

Maybe something in the mentality of the helmet cam cyclist is just different to the rest of us?

Quite !

 

[PJ79LIZARD]

The filtering was no different to any footage I've seen of cycling in capitals across the globe, if it's safe is another matter!

I'm sure the op is used to his cycling environment, his roads, his country, his decisions. Even if they might put him over a bonnet.

His got a new toy let him use it, and talking from experience you'll soon get bored of the novelty. But it's nice to know the airzound is there, because just occasionally it will come in handy.

 

[mackar]

I think as the OP says "Sweden is different" - Ive cycled in most of the Scandinavian countries (and Benelux) and found it quite un-nerving sometimes the blind faith that cyclists have that traffic will give way - if you take the UK approach and wait and see if the traffic gives way then you will get at the least a load of abuse from the cyclist behind and and risk being rear ended at speed - really unreal until you get used to it - but it seems to work

Yes my explanation wasn't that good and I think that some have the opinion set that I'm plain crazy but yes you are completely right with your explanation.

 

[fossyant]

Cameras and airzounds just say one thing to me

 

[fossyant]

Cyclist to the man upstairs...

"Well I did have right of way and he should have stopped"

Man upstairs to cyclist...

"Maybe, didn't stop you getting flattened did it - now go join the admission queue"

 

[psmiffy]

Cyclist to the man upstairs...

"Well I did have right of way and he should have stopped"

Man upstairs to cyclist...

"Maybe, didn't stop you getting flattened did it - now go join the admission queue"

And the moral of the story is that both the cyclist and "the man upstairs" was talking in English"

 

[fossyant]

And the moral of the story is that both the cyclist and "the man upstairs" was talking in English"

Nah, both have babel fish !

 

[Ian Cooper]

Cyclist to the man upstairs...

"Well I did have right of way and he should have stopped"

Man upstairs to cyclist...

"Maybe, didn't stop you getting flattened did it - now go join the admission queue"

I see this ridiculous argument almost every day during my forays onto the internet. The whole point of exercising one's right of way is to PREVENT accidents. When we start giving up our right of way on the road, it turns the road into a place where there are no rules. When there are no rules on the road - when people don't follow the rules, people get killed. It is never the fault of the person who follows the rules of the road if he gets injured or killed. To suggest otherwise is contemptible.

While I agree that caution should be used when asserting one's right of way, I think that it's a terrible mistake to suggest that asserting one's right of way is foolish.

As for the Airzound, I installed one and rode around with it for three months. I never used it and found that refilling it became an annoyance. In my view, those who find Airzounds useful need to change their cycling habits, because if they're getting into so many near scrapes that they need to be using their horn that often, they're doing something wrong - and most likely it's riding too near the kerb.

 

[Alun]

I notice the video cam was mounted on the handlebars, I hope the OP was wearing a helmet.

 

[mackar]

I notice the video cam was mounted on the handlebars, I hope the OP was wearing a helmet.

The camera is mounted on the frame and yes I'm wearing a helmet

 

[Alun]

I see this ridiculous argument almost every day during my forays onto the internet. The whole point of exercising one's right of way is to PREVENT accidents. When we start giving up our right of way on the road, it turns the road into a place where there are no rules. When there are no rules on the road - when people don't follow the rules, people get killed. It is never the fault of the person who follows the rules of the road if he gets injured or killed. To suggest otherwise is contemptible.

As for the Airzound, I installed one and rode around with it for three months. I never used it and found that refilling it became an annoyance. In my view, those who find Airzounds useful need to change their cycling habits, because if they're getting into so many near scrapes that they need to be using their horn that often, they're doing something wrong - and most likely it's riding too near the kerb.

I can't agree with you, it is quite easy to exercise ones right of way and be involved in an accident, in which the cyclist will definately come 2nd.
I would say that the OP's riding goes beyond assertiveness, and has strayed into aggressiveness which is not good.
I'll cut the rider some slack because I have no experience of driving/riding in Sweden.

 

[Ian Cooper]

[QUOTE 1825176, member: 45"]See my sig line. Namely...

"The rules in The Highway Code do not give you the right of way in any circumstance, but they advise you when you should give way to others. Always give way if it can help to avoid an incident."[/quote]

As I just clarified in my previous post, while I agree that caution should be used when asserting one's right of way, I think that it's a terrible mistake to suggest that asserting one's right of way is foolish.

I agree with others that have said that the OP's videos show a cyclist who is behaving as if he wants to get killed, and then honking at people who want to oblige him. But again, saying that it's wrong to take the right of way when its your turn to do so is a mistake. If everyone followed that philosophy, no one would get anywhere and the road would be strewn with accidents even more than it is now.

 

[Ian Cooper]

I can't agree with you, it is quite easy to exercise ones right of way and be involved in an accident, in which the cyclist will definately come 2nd.

While I thoroughly agree with the point you make after this, I think it's a straw man to suggest that a cyclist will come second in an accident due to asserting his right of way. A cyclist will come second in ANY accident, whether he asserts right of way or not. Asserting one's right of way (cautiously but firmly) prevents accidents. Asserting it incautiously or not asserting it at all can both end in tragedy.

I've been cycling as an adult for 30 years now - for the first 10 years I cycled in ways that would be likely to get me killed - one of those ways was in not asserting my right of way when I had it (because I had no idea that I should have it). I also rode far left (or far right on the continent and in the US). For ten years I was lucky - I only had close calls. Since then, by riding assertively, by knowing the correct lane position, and by knowing when I should move and when I shouldn't - according to the rules of right of way - I haven't even had a close call.

 

[Alun]

[QUOTE 1825176, member: 45"]See my sig line. Namely...

"The rules in The Highway Code do not give you the right of way in any circumstance, but they advise you when you should give way to others. Always give way if it can help to avoid an incident."

How much clearer do you need it to be?

Blame only becomes an issue afterwards. I'd much rather avoid the hassle of being in the right by not having the incident in the first place when I'm in a position to choose whether the conflict takes place.[/quote]
I agree with you but this is the UK Highway Code you are referring to, they probably have different Highway Codes in Stockholm and Maryland. I love to read them, just for entertainment.