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Yeah, Paul Daniels.

Pulled the wool over all of our eyes in the 80's-how the feck did he last so long:whistle:


He had a longstanding bet with Doris Stokes the medium

His argument was that he fooled people, but they were fully aware they were being fooled

She however was he argued being dishonest and fooling them when they thought it was real

She never accepted his challenge of allowing him to attend one of her sessions
 

Hacienda71

Mancunian in self imposed exile in leafy Cheshire
I know a guy who makes his living from close up magic, he is damn good.
 

mattobrien

Guru
Location
Sunny Suffolk
We had a close up magician at our wedding to mingle and entertain guests between the ceremony and food etc. He was brilliant and clearly very talented, no one could spot exactly how he was doing it.

Would thoroughly recommend it, if anyone was considering it. We used Andrew Murray (not the tennis player, far more personable)
 

gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
As a rule, magicians don't excite me, you know its a trick, you just don't know how. But, we had a table entertainer a few years ago at a staff function. My mate watched him close up, like a hawk, to see how he did his tricks (mostly cards)...he was transfixed with concentration, but couldnt work out how he did them.
He was excellent, changed my mind a bit.
 

400bhp

Guru
[QUOTE 2893834, member: 9609"]without having access to the box (switching it over and spotting the dot) how could it be done.

lifting weights is a slow thing and puts on bulk - dynamo has no bulk[/quote]

They sorted it out with the metro a few days before - put one positive news story on a full page near the front of the newspaper, in particular focusing on the large headline text giving a positive message. The story wasn't headline and the Metro will have a bank of news fillers. The DJ had 3 minutes to flick through the paper and didn't have time to look at detail.

Positive news stories aren't usually instantaneous news, so there possible wasn't any other in the paper (would be interesting to see an actual copy of the paper on that day).
 

400bhp

Guru
[QUOTE 2893834, member: 9609"]

lifting weights is a slow thing and puts on bulk - dynamo has no bulk[/quote]

I know - 99.9% of the time it's true for westerners. But there is something in unusual feats of strength and a focussing of the mind.
 
All "magic" tricks are basically someone doing something that we cannot believe can be done.

As there are so many really easy things that can be done on TV (and indeed almost all we see is an illusion )
it just seems so easy to do tricks on TV with the help of camera trickery. The lottery number trick a while back was just a camera trick.

Even if you had someone in the street picking a card from a pack and the magician guessing what it is, you just do it 52 times and use the one where the guess is right.
 

400bhp

Guru
All "magic" tricks are basically someone doing something that we cannot believe can be done.

As there are so many really easy things that can be done on TV (and indeed almost all we see is an illusion )
it just seems so easy to do tricks on TV with the help of camera trickery. The lottery number trick a while back was just a camera trick.

Even if you had someone in the street picking a card from a pack and the magician guessing what it is, you just do it 52 times and use the one where the guess is right.

Your grasp of probability theory isn't great, but I know what you mean^_^
 

Lullabelle

Banana
Location
Midlands UK
I enjoyed watching the programme where a masked magician would do the magic trick then show you how it was done. Most of the time things were obvious anyway but a few things took me by surprise. Wonder it the Magic Circle ever found out who he was?
 

colly

Re member eR
Location
Leeds
The close up stuff (card tricks and the like) is great fun, Paul Daniels does it really well as does David Blaine, it's not magic but it's very entertaining.
A group of us on a sailing weekend had a guy doing card tricks, and close up it is astonishing, jaw dropping, but when it is done literally right in front of your eyes it seems like..............well, magic.
Most impressive was at the beginning he passed an ordinary envelope to one of us, gave us a pack of cards and said to select one and seal it in the envelope, he did the same on another table across the room. Once he had handed out the envelope he never touched it again until after 30 mins or so of tricks he asked someone on the table to open it.
The card in our envelope, 7 of diamonds I think, had swapped with the one in the other envelope, Queen of Clubs. The envelope never left the table after it was put there by one of us. :wacko:
Of course it was just a trick, but a farking good one.
 

400bhp

Guru
[QUOTE 2894042, member: 9609"]This is what puzzles me about people who are in-on-it and stooges. Nobody these days can keep there mouth shut and in particular journalists - if a journalist had been in on the trick he would be selling his story to the highest bidder.

Its like the moon landings been filmed in a hollywood set - if they had been, someone who worked on the production would have spilt the beans by now. Same with these magicians, somebody would come forward.[/quote]

Ahh, yes but the journalists have their "code" though. If one blabbed they would be black balled. And given the structure of such corporations only the editor and a couple more would need to know.

Good publicity for both.

Not convinced all those mind things are purely stooges - buggin me now about the particular one I saw and it clicked with how he had done it.
 
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