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Archie_tect

De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
Location
Northumberland
Mannerist trickery... I've never forgiven him and Manfredo Tafuri for messing up our history texts with stupidly long and unintelligible sentences.....

[Edit: didn't expect to have the opportunity for architectural criticism on CC! Fantastic!]
 

Fab Foodie

hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
Location
Kirton, Devon.
Exeter. The sticky out windows near the top was a cafe. It became Debenhams. As the high street runs along a ridge, the Bobbys building was already at a high and was about the tallest building in the town along with the Norman Cathedral towers, from the cafe with its floor to ceiling windows it was like dining from a martian spacecraft hovering over the city and you could see for miles! Heady days and great knickerbocker glorys ......
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
Mannerist trickery... I've never forgiven him and Manfredo Tafuri for messing up our history texts with stupidly long and unintelligible sentences.....

[Edit: didn't expect to have the opportunity for architectural criticism on CC! Fantastic!]
nowt wrong with a bit of Mannerism, Mr. Tect. Just because it's so cold up there that the curly bits drop off your buildings doesn't mean we can't have a laugh.....

if anybody's got five minutes to spare when they next pass the Sainsbury Wing of the National Gallery, then go right round to the back, and start following the horizontal lines through from left to right. It's brilliantly, and lovingly contrived. Sure it's a take on history, but all kinds of people have done that, and nobody thinks the worse of them for it.
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
We visited the History Faculty and the Florey Building in April 1978. The leaks, the structural movement, the acoustic problems and the the poor quality of the industrial patent glazing had effectively closed the buildings down even then.
Florey was still in use in 1988, and, for that matter, is still in use today. I doubt it has ever been fully out of use - there isn't an awful lot of space in Oxford for 100 first-year undergraduates.
We were told by the Building management company that the Florey building had been turned through 180 degrees during the initial design/planning but Stirling refused to redesign for the new aspect.
Yes, that's what we thought, too. But the Official Word (from the college Director of Development, who has access to the college archives, and no doubt has reviewed much of the correspondence) is that that is an urban legend. (Only in Oxford would you get an architectural urban legend). Apparently the building as built was more or less as designed - but the front door was supposed to be at the front, on the river side. But the landowners (Magdalen, I believe - no doubt jealous of its older cousin's affrontery in building a modern building opposite the deerpark) wouldn't release the land that Queen's required.

Stirling obviously knew as much about books as he did about undergraduate modesty - designing a glass building to house light-sensitive paper isn't exactly the sharpest idea, is it?
 

Fab Foodie

hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
Location
Kirton, Devon.
Florey was still in use in 1988, and, for that matter, is still in use today. I doubt it has ever been fully out of use - there isn't an awful lot of space in Oxford for 100 first-year undergraduates.
I have to confess, I've never seen it! I'll keep an eye out ....
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
It's just East of Magdalen bridge - there's a private entrance just before the Angel Meadow carpark; from the street you can see the back. I'm not aware of any public view of the front, except perhaps from a corner of the deerpark.
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
glass walled buildings are fine (well, actually they're not fine, but they can be managed) if you have lots and lots of money, and the systems you use are properly designed. Now, Mr. Tect may be ahead of me on this, but having looked at the failures of glass walled buildings over the years, and their limitations, and the struggle that the designers and manufacturers of systems go through to resolve the obvious problems (glass lets heat out, expands and contracts, is not readily bonded to other materials and is not readily adjusted) and, having dealt with the technical departments of companies that are very highly thought of, my advice is........windows.
 

Archie_tect

De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
Location
Northumberland
Florey was still in use in 1988, and, for that matter, is still in use today. I doubt it has ever been fully out of use - there isn't an awful lot of space in Oxford for 100 first-year undergraduates.

Yes, that's what we thought, too. But the Official Word (from the college Director of Development, who has access to the college archives, and no doubt has reviewed much of the correspondence) is that that is an urban legend. (Only in Oxford would you get an architectural urban legend). Apparently the building as built was more or less as designed - but the front door was supposed to be at the front, on the river side. But the landowners (Magdalen, I believe - no doubt jealous of its older cousin's affrontery in building a modern building opposite the deerpark) wouldn't release the land that Queen's required.

Stirling obviously knew as much about books as he did about undergraduate modesty - designing a glass building to house light-sensitive paper isn't exactly the sharpest idea, is it?
I'm sure the Director of Development would say that... wouldn't he?
Hate to imagine what Stirling's Professional Indemnity Insurance premiums were.
 
glass walled buildings are fine (well, actually they're not fine, but they can be managed) if you have lots and lots of money, and the systems you use are properly designed. Now, Mr. Tect may be ahead of me on this, but having looked at the failures of glass walled buildings over the years, and their limitations, and the struggle that the designers and manufacturers of systems go through to resolve the obvious problems (glass lets heat out, expands and contracts, is not readily bonded to other materials and is not readily adjusted) and, having dealt with the technical departments of companies that are very highly thought of, my advice is........windows.
I'm sat in a Rogers-designed all-glass building right now, it has very clever wings and stuff to deflect airflow etc and....
it's never the right temperature
the facilities are rather meagre for the number of people on each floor
the aforementioned greenhouse effect
NO FRIKKING STAIRS FOR GENERAL USE

the last point really gets my goat.

Oh, and a massive entrance atrium thing, with barely any seaqting and a massive lightwell.....which seems to be permanently covered.

The Plaza and the lake are nice though.
 

Archie_tect

De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
Location
Northumberland
That's how history is 'corrected'. But as Oxford University seem to have rationalised it, then it doesn't matter anyway.

Meanwhile back at the camp...
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
That's how history is 'corrected'. But as Oxford University seem to have rationalised it, then it doesn't matter anyway.
It doesn't. But you'd have to have the eye of a mole and no regard at all for the future occupants to design that particular building facing out on to St Clements rather than Magdalen meadow.

Hold on - maybe you're right.
 
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