Misguided Cycling Safety Campaigns

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I need to write to 'Stoke Air Ambulance'. I'd guess this sponsored post was written by a carbrain.

I can point them in the direction of 'Miller et al. (2017). Use of conspicuity aids by cyclists and risk of crashes involving other road users' in respect of the Hi-Viz nonsense. I can counter the 'Use Bike Lanes and Paths' nonsense. Mirrors? Really? Without any blind spots to see around! ( - I appreciate some cyclists need them/prefer to use mirrors, no slight against that).

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Aside from pointing out that the post being targetted at vulnerable road users, instead of those imposing the risk, any other suggestions?
 

BrumJim

Forum Stalwart (won't take the hint and leave...)
I would agree with a few of these:
Use lights and reflectors
Signal your intentions
Stay alert
Follow traffic rules.

Otherwise, probably a bit dangerous, but would be a complex argument. I still say that the safest thing I have ever done is ride home in the dark with no lights. At that point, you assume that no one has seen you and is likely to pull out, pull across, or step out right in front of you. Wouldn't do it any more than once in my life, though, but doesn't matter how visible you are, if you rely on clothing or reflective strips for traffic to avoid you, you will be sadly mistaken.

Mirrors? Ha ha ha ha!
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Signal your intentions - as with car drivers, a signal is usually a substitute for proper obs.

Equip your bike with mirrors - you'll see sod all with them, and what little view their do provide will make the rider reliant, and thus less likely to look properly across their entire field of view.

Use bike lanes and paths - the stats are bit vague, but some studies do suggest that the casualty rate is higher on dedicated cycling infrastructure than riding on the road (the same road that cyclists have already paid to build and maintain though general taxation, just like car drivers). Even the good ones are usually poorly conceved and maintained. How would a car driver like to deal with trees, lamp,posts, bollards and bus stops in the carriageway? They wouldn't, so why should we be told to endure these hazards?

And they seem to have forgotten that in most instances the danger comes from motorised road users and is also more likely to have the legal blame lay with them in a bicycle collision, so why no entreaty to the users creating the biggest danger?

Some of them are sensible, lights at night, obey the law. Others are glib, some are actually counter to safe progress. I'd be asking them what expertise the consulted with prior to trotting this out. I'd dreadful to read their advice to lone females out at night- "no short skits and wear a chastity belt..."
 
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Air ambulance, eh? We should give them a few safe helicoptering tips. We probably know as much about that as they do about cycling.

It's just common sense that helicopters are incredibly dangerous things. And almost anyone could be injured by these things - they can FLY, after all!

Let me just go fetch my Ladybird book of Aircraft, and I'll get a Top Ten drafted ...
 
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PedallingNowhereSlowly

PedallingNowhereSlowly

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FTR, by way of comparison, it might be useful to note any advice for drivers advising that they turn on their lights in poor visibility, replace blown bulbs etc. etc.
 
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PedallingNowhereSlowly

PedallingNowhereSlowly

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I've had a stab at something. It's rather long, but I don't want to leave them in any doubt that they should consult someone (not me - ideally someone who cycles and also has an appropriate qualification?) before pushing this kind of rubbish* in future.


Hello,

I was dismayed to see your recent post on Facebook aimed at cyclists (see image). In a climate where social media accounts are posting material to stir up hatred against cyclists, I thought it was very poorly judged. Especially given the number of incidents cyclists experience, where-by a driver will be deliberately inconsiderate toward them - often manifesting as a 'punishment pass' or occasionally, worse.

I would like to know whether anyone with any expertise about cycling was consulted before the post published? If the aim was to have a positive effect on road safety, content like this may be counter-productive.

The post emphasizes the importance of hi-viz clothing. A recent and detailed study conducted in Nottingham, "Use of conspicuity aids by cyclists and risk of crashes involving other road users" [Miller et al. (2017)] found no evidence that cyclists using conspicuity aids were at reduced risk of a collision crash compared to non-users after adjustment for confounding, but there was some evidence of an increase in risk.

Certainly, as a regular cyclist covering several thousand miles each year, I have found little to no improvement in terms of drivers failing to give way or cede priority when wearing hi visibility clothing. My experience is that drivers often just don't look - or don't look for long enough.

The post goes on to emphasize the importance of signalling intentions - but says nothing of making correct observations, maintaining good control of the bicycle and using correct road positioning. I am linking these things together because a right arm signal, for example, takes the hand away from the control for the front brake. Not only that, but it reduces the riders ability to cushion themselves on an uneven road surface, keep the bicycle well balanced and maintain well distributed traction on the front wheel. Traffic situations can be very fluid and signalling can compromise a rider's the ability to deal with changing circumstances effectively.

That is not to say signalling is not important, but in my view, the priorities for a cyclist and especially less experienced cyclists should be observation, control, positioning and signalling - in that order.

The post advises using 'bike lanes and paths when available' which I would argue against. Some (mainly legacy) cycling infrastructure are poorly designed and often poorly maintained and as a result can prevent risk of serious injury to cyclists that do not understand the dangers they present.

Thanks to LTN 1/20 we do have some very good cycling infrastructure appearing in small pockets around the country, but we are a long way from this advice being considered good advice.

Further more, motorists reading this take it to mean 'cyclists should be in the cycle lane/bike path' when that is not always appropriate. Sadly, a small but vocal minority of drivers see this kind of material as vindication for verbally, and even physically abusing cyclists who ignore inadequate, unsafe or inappropriate cycling infrastructure.

The post suggests equipping bicycles with mirrors. I have to ask - why? There is no need for an average cyclist to do this. Unlike cars, bicycles do not have blind spots. In fact, visibility is very good. You can't look in a mirror as well as look ahead - human vision does not work like that. It is much better for a cyclist to use their flexibility - if they have it - to perform periodic rearward and sideways glances which are unconstrained by a mirror's field of view. A bicycle saddle and riding position is not like that of a motor bike, permitting much more movement in order to help cyclists make good observations. On a motor cycle the mirrors will be much larger in any case, as weight and drag are not such significant factors on a vehicle with an electric motor or combustion engine and a fairing.

The post encourages 'making eye contact with drivers at intersections', which I've no doubt been copied from somewhere with little thought as in the UK we tend to call them junctions. In any case, this again is problematic. If I had a £1 for every occasion it appeared to me like I'd made eye contact with a motorist - only for them to proceded like I wasn't there - I would be a very wealthy man. Quite often, they are looking straight past you or even staring into space. This kind of riding can put riders at risk because it causes a false sense of security - a bit like relying on mirrors instead of a sweep of the head.

In respect to the point on route planning - the condition of the roads or cycling infrastructure should come into it. It is much easier and potentially safer to ride on a wide road with good sight lines, good margins for vehicle drivers to overtake and smooth asphalt - even if traffic is moving quickly - relative to busy urban streets where drivers have lots of things competing for their attention or quiet country lanes where an unseen potholes and blind bends can be hazardous.

I'm very much left with the impression this information has been pieced together by a driver with little or very limited experience of cycling.

If the aim of this campaign is to reduce the numbers of people killed or seriously injured on our roads, it would be much better to focus on the source of the danger, rather than vulnerable road users. I would suggest campaign targeting ‘phone drivers’, ‘amber gamblers’ or drivers that do not allow sufficient time for their journeys and consequently drive impatiently and inconsiderately.



Yours Faithfully

*the bits I agree with - lights at night, reflectors etc. - are so obvious that I think the people that ignore them, aren't likely to change their behaviour based on this sort of messaging?
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
"Make eye contact with drivers at intersections to ensure they have seen you" Arrrrgh! Have these people never heard of "Looked But Failed To See" and "SMIDSY"? If I had a pound for every time a driver had looked straight at me, made eye contact and then pulled out against priority forcing me to brake or emergency turn, I could make a sizeable donation to Stoke Air Ambulance! Don't look at their eyes unless you're wearing mirror shades. Some drivers, if they think you've seen them, they think you'll give way to them so they can go no matter what. If you want to watch anything, watch their wheels or bumper for signs of movement. It's far more reliable than eye contact.

I'm also shocked by the blanket advice to install mirrors on helmets. Firstly, because most helmet makers strongly warn against unapproved attachments, and secondly because some helmet mirrors are on sticks so basically become face-stabbing hazards in a crash.

The research-ignorant gibberish about visibility is sadly typical. If they want to wear light green when cycling between fields of unripe beans, then that's their problem. They absolutely should not be encouraging others to do so. And what of the environmental harm of the short-life synthetic fabrics and polystyrene hats they're advocating?
 

oldwheels

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Latterly I always had a rear view mirror on my bikes. Those who decry such things have never really used them properly.
Now with a trike a mirror is essential to keep tabs on traffic from behind.
I cycle a lot on single track roads where a mirror is even more important, not so much for safety but certainly for courtesy.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Latterly I always had a rear view mirror on my bikes. Those who decry such things have never really used them properly.
Well, the vast majority of mirrors sold are shoot and the vast majority of people with them probably don't use them properly. That's reality and official advice should reflect that reality and not blithely advocate them for general use.

Now with a trike a mirror is essential to keep tabs on traffic from behind.
With some trikes, rearwards visibility is restricted enough to make a mirror desirable, plus there tend to be better positions to install one.
 
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PedallingNowhereSlowly

PedallingNowhereSlowly

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If you want to watch anything, watch their wheels or bumper for signs of movement. It's far more reliable than eye contact.
Absolutely. This has saved me on a good few occasions. Especially filtering - watch the front wheels.

Latterly I always had a rear view mirror on my bikes.

My remarks are not a slight on people who do rely on mirrors. I think experienced riders with an understanding of the risks of road cyclng can use them effectively - but novice/inexperienced road riders may not be able to use them effectively. I don't think a lot of drivers understand the limitations of relying on a mirror - you still have to be aware of the blind spots and exercise due caution.
 
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