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SteveH80

Well-Known Member
Yeah that's a bit like by partner, she's only ever been on the back of my 115cc scoot and enjoyed it, but probably thinks all scooters are the same. She wants the thrill of a big bike but doesn't understand about engines, HP, comfort, wind blast at high speed etc, as she's only previously done 35mph on the back

I'd offer you both a go on Scootie, but you're at the other end of the country.
 

yello

back and brave
Location
France
I'm debating a bike change, I've had my Deauville for nearly 10 years now. I test rode a TDM 900 20+ years back, and quite liked that, but I'm temptedby the 850. (I've not a lot of cash so looking at older bikes) Or, leftish field, a Moto Guzzi Norge. I clearly don't know what I want!
 

teeonethousand

Über Member
I went from a GS Adventure to a Honda Adv 350 ...it's a bit of a cross between motorbike front end and scooter drive. I can keep up with others fine and have toured on it plus the storage is like having a cargo bike. I don't have experience with a pillion but others on forums have/do and say it manages just fine. I miss the straight line acceleration but other than that progress can still be made.

All you need is enough

Good luck...choosing is often the best bit😁
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
Has anyone done much 2-up riding? Is it sensible to assume that if my partner sits on the back whilst stationary, and is comfy, it should be ok> She has visions of touring around the UK but I'm trying to get her to understand how different bikes are versus cars, and rain/wind etc is much more of an issue if you're not in a cage!


The important thing is that the pillion remains "upright" RELATIVE TO THE BIKE (not relative to the ground). The bike then behaves the same apart from being a bit heavier. I once and only once gave my dad a lift and it was a struggle as he was evidently leaning the opposite way from me so the bike had two masters as it were. Never again !

In contrast Mrs PP is an exemplary pillion and we've been to Italy, Germany, Belgium etc on the machine

The other key thing is to have an agreed clear signal for when the pillion can get got on or off. We did muff this up once in our first week; 70% my fault I think.
 
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figbat

Former slippery scientist
The other key thing is to have an agreed clear signal for when the pillion can get got on or off. We did muff this up once in our first week; 70% my fault I think.

This is something the intercom helps with. Do not get on or off until I have said so.

My son is a great pillion, although at 50 kg dripping wet he’s not got a lot of weight to impact the ride!
 
Friday 1st
Daughter & her chap came round for tea last night
She in car, with the dog (16month old/58kg 'Rottie', whose favourite occupation is to sit on your knee & lick your face!)
He came round on his bike, the first time we've seen it

'74' plate
Honda CBR650
But... he tells me it's an 'automatic'?!!?
Clutch for starting/moving off only?
Did I hear him correctly??
 

YMFB

Senior Member
I had my Multistrada serviced yesterday and now I’m almost £600 lighter. Accepting that included £105 collection and delivery charge. No parts, labour £315.00, consumables, environmental fee £78.33, less £2.41 discount plus VAT grand total £597.99

Bike has 8,000 miles and I love it, Im just not sure it’s vfm

£271 for new tyres, £139 tyre fitting and rear pads earlier in the week.

Over a grand, with nothing other than keeping it going.

Im going camping to Devon on it over the weekend, im hoping i will come back desperately in love with it again.
 

raleighnut

Legendary Member
Friday 1st
Daughter & her chap came round for tea last night
She in car, with the dog (16month old/58kg 'Rottie', whose favourite occupation is to sit on your knee & lick your face!)
He came round on his bike, the first time we've seen it

'74' plate
Honda CBR650
But... he tells me it's an 'automatic'?!!?
Clutch for starting/moving off only?
Did I hear him correctly??

Yep it has an 'E' clutch system but you still have a gear lever so not a full 'auto' more similar to 'flappy paddle' gear shifters on cars.
 

SteveH80

Well-Known Member
'74' plate
Honda CBR650
But... he tells me it's an 'automatic'?!!?
Clutch for starting/moving off only?
Did I hear him correctly??
It's Honda's latest thing, a clutch powered by a servo motor but the gears are still shifted as normal.
So it's not fully auto but Honda could add a servo for the gear shift as well to do that, and it would be cheaper than their DCT gearbox.
Personally I think auto boxes are the work of the devil... :laugh:
 

SteveH80

Well-Known Member
I had my Multistrada serviced yesterday and now I’m almost £600 lighter. Accepting that included £105 collection and delivery charge. No parts, labour £315.00, consumables, environmental fee £78.33, less £2.41 discount plus VAT grand total £597.99

Bike has 8,000 miles and I love it, Im just not sure it’s vfm

£271 for new tyres, £139 tyre fitting and rear pads earlier in the week.

Over a grand, with nothing other than keeping it going.

Im going camping to Devon on it over the weekend, im hoping i will come back desperately in love with it again.

It's the labour charges that do it, but before complaining ask what your company charges for you. I did that and was impressed with what I was worth, but depressed at how little landed in my pocket :laugh:

It's a hobby, something you spend money on to keep you sane from the stress of working to earn that money!
 
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