Motorcycle crashes into cyclists

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MaxInc

Senior Member
WTF? The biker clearly swerved at them and didnt even try to brake.

And yet it is exactly the oposite that caused the crash. By closing the throttle and appling the front brake while leaned over mid-corner, a motorbike will stand upright and run wide. The motobiker is clearly inexperienced and has been a victim of what is called as "survival instict" which combined with target fixation got him into trouble.

When noticing the cyclers in his lane, he should have leaned the bike further and apply slightly more throtlle to tighten the corner. He looked quite uncomfortable leaning the bike when entering the corner so it was unfortunate for all of them. Hope nobody got seriously injured.
 

simon.r

Person
Looks as if no-one was seriously hurt. Comment below posted on YT:

'This was my friend visiting from England who was struck first. (I was further back on the hill when the accident happened and am one of the guys who comes in the picture to his assistance). He's doing ok today, was discharged from the hospital yesterday with no broken bones. Miraculously. Motorcyclists, please share the road and ride within your limits. As you can see from the video, Mark was riding exactly where he was supposed to be. He's a very lucky guy today.'
 

DiddlyDodds

Random Resident
Ive ridden motorbikes for 30 years now , and he is just a crap rider , another case of "all the gear no idea"
 

GrasB

Veteran
looking at other videos of that corner I wonder if the rider got spooked by a bump or something as he exited (the exit where you start to stand the bike up seems to be the source of problems for a lot of riders) & so he didn't see the cyclists?
 

Licramite

Über Member
I'm amazed there wasn't more violence, - as in the other cyclists - seamed to be lots about - setting about the bastard.
clearly going to fast around the bend threw him into the cyclists.
as dwiggy said - good thing he had his helmet on as the rear guy come down on the back of his head, could easily have been dead from an impact like that.

I've had motorbikes blast past me and its like being overtaken by a lorry , you get a real blast as they go past.

Hope the law did for him , he could have easily killed them both..
 

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
Looks like the cyclists were going for a KOM: http://app.strava.com/segments/1643740
 

MaxInc

Senior Member
I'm amazed there wasn't more violence, - as in the other cyclists ... Hope the law did for him, he could have easily killed them both ...

He could have easily been killed just as well as the cyclists. More than 50% of Killed and Seriously Injured bikers don't involve another vehicle. Nobody wants to cause a accident or get killed on the road. It was unfortunate for everyone involved. It was his skill (or lack of) at negotiating that bend that got him into trouble not the speed he was travelling at.

I've had motorbikes blast past me and its like being overtaken by a lorry , you get a real blast as they go past. ...

I'm afraid that apart from pedestrians and some agricultural vehicles, pretty much any other vehicle is capable to overtake you (and mostly will) on a public road. Cycles are slow and most vulnerable on open roads, this shouldn't come as a surprise.
 

Sheepy1209

Veteran
MaxInc has this right I think; it might surprise many people to know that motorcyclists don't have to know how to steer their bike to get through the test! In normal riding on any two wheeler you just look where you want to go and the bike somehow goes there. In reality, a bike is steered by turning the bars - but in the opposite direction to the one you want to go in (except at low speed). If you push the left bar forwards, the bike will lean to the left and start turning left.

Having this knowledge means a biker can steer the bike much more precisely as long as they have enough lean angle left; as this one did. Enter a bend a bit too quick, or encounter an obstacle mid corner, and a slight push on the bar is all you need.

Unfortunately many bikers either don't know this, or panic like this one did. Braking in this situation could have made things worse; bikes don't take kindly to sharp braking in a bend.

For some reason the DSA doesn't want riders to learn about 'countersteering' as it's called; no idea why.
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
He was on the brakes about 20 yards before he hit, looks to me like he was running out of tarmac and didn't want to either straighten up and do an emergency stop (would have meant going off the road) or release the brakes, lean the bike and steer past the riders.

Poor anticipation, whatever.
 

Linford

Guest
He ran out of skill and shouldn't have been attempting that with other road users in the frame.
It looks to me like he was attempting the Knee down style (like my avatar).. should never even try this without getting the tyres up to temp, and if trying it on the road, always do a sighting run to check how tight it is, and if there is any gravel/contamination on the road (as well as nobody else in the middle of your line moving at 15mph)
 
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