RWright
Guru
- Location
- North Carolina
The guy on the motorcycle was not paying attention to where he was going and looking at the people on his left, probably looking at the girl with half her ass hanging out of her sweat pants.
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maybe the squirrel is a cyclist in a former life.
maybe the squirrel is a cyclist in a former life.
Archie_tect
De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
- Location
- Northumberland
That motorcyclist isn't going to last long if he keeps riding, hope the cyclists recovered from their injuries. The best outcome would be that the motorbike rider loses his licence to keep him off the road, for his end everyone else's safety.
snorri
Legendary Member
- Location
- East coast, up a bit.
GrasB
Veteran
- Location
- Nr Cambridge
Err...... really?
Shouldn't we be told where?
About here - https://maps.google.com/maps?q&layer=c&cbll=34.100099,-118.804846&cbp=11,35,0,0,0&z=16
Linford
Guest
I'd actually disagree with that because what will happen is that he will end up back behind the wheel of a huge truck and become an even greater danger to others.
What he needs to do is learn to ride within the limitations of both his own skills and the machine he is on...and to stay away from places like this where the crowd egg the road users to take stupid risks.
The biggest problem with the states is that nearly all the roads are arrow straight so they rarely get the opportunity to extend their ability.
snorri
Legendary Member
- Location
- East coast, up a bit.
Archie_tect
De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
- Location
- Northumberland
But he's passed his test to already have a machine that size... he's not going to learn much now.
Linford
Guest
If you believe that, you have little understanding of what is required to ride a motorcycle quickly and safely on the road..
IMO Passing a bike test is only the beginning of the process to competency on the open road....especially when a heavy machine with a lot of performance is concerned. It isn't like sitting in a car seat and turning the wheel..
Whilst I personally agree, how any bikers actually go on to do further training? And I think that was pretty much archie_tect's point. Most bikers pass the required test and go.
There's also an important point to note here - the open roads are not the place to ride "quickly". Many bikers (I was one such once) do like to 'make progress'. It's a bit of a nod and a wink. Something said to justify a form of hooning. The sort of thing that that video clip well illustrates. That biker should not be trying that sort of thing on a public road. Keep it for a track day.
The biker in the video clip was inexperienced, he wasn't trying anything stupid or reckless, he was actually quite slow for the bend and was probably trying to improve his skills. He was betrayed by the poor technique and his own body's reaction when meeting the cyclists mid-corner. It was an "oh-dear" moment that all bikers have sometimes when leaned over, but an unfortunate one that ended badly for everyone involved, including himself.
I'm not finding him excuses by any means, he surely can use some advanced training and track time. I'm also not a big fan of speeding on open roads, although one's definition of speeding could be argued easily (country lanes at NSL is pretty fast too). But please don't put all bikers in the same pot. Just as with anything else, experience is gained by practicing and leaving your comfort zone one step a time. Just as cyclists are training their bodies by pushing their limits for KOMs with every ride, for a motorbiker the ultimate goal is to master the bends - nothing more rewarding than negotiating a perfect corner.
On a different note, cycling on that stretch of road, (especially that corner) is very dangerous indeed. You will find plenty of video clips of totalled bikes and overturned cars too! As a cyclist, I would most definitely avoid the area due to high risk of collision alone.
Archie_tect
De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
- Location
- Northumberland
Linford, you've misunderstood, and have no idea what I believe since I didn't state it... he's passed his test but he's another numpty let loose on a motorbike which is clearly beyond his capabilities to control- he's not going to listen to advice because he doesn't have to now.
I passed my motorbike test in 1976 and have ridden with off duty police motorbike riders, it's relevant to all road users to understand their limits... you don't need to advise about competency.
I passed my motorbike test in 1976 and have ridden with off duty police motorbike riders, it's relevant to all road users to understand their limits... you don't need to advise about competency.
Doesn't this apply to every motorcycle rider out there, or car and lorry driver for that matter? What about cyclist who don't even have to read the highway code in order to ride at speed on public roads?
