Motorist bites back... and proves beyond all doubt that he is a c*ck

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lejogger

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Wirral
Yesterday evening's commute heralded that all too rare occassion of when I actually managed to catch up with a close passing driver.

I first noticed him and his black VW Golf stationary at the front of the queue at the traffic lights. I had filtered to the front and positioned myself just in front of him but as I took off promptly from the lights he passed me with no problems, not especially carefully, but certainly not too close.
The main things I noticed about him were:
a) Two bumper stickers stating "My brakes are excellent, how's your insurance" and "the closer you get, the slower I go"
Wow... a considerate motorist clearly worried about safety on the highway, I thought.
b) A small smurf dangling from his rear towbar hook.
Perhaps a 17 year old girl, I thought.

Anyway. Some two miles down the road I pass him again. This time he's stuck in the queue at the lights and I filter to the front again. Didn't think anymore of it until he races past me at around 45 mph in a 30 with inches to spare from my pannier.

Now I didn't think he'd done it intentionally, unless he was annoyed that he was making less progress in his car than I was on my bike, I just presumed it was careless and absent-minded rather than malicious, but I still shook my fist and shouted at the pass as an instant reaction. 100 yards down the road he'd had to slam on for another set of lights which is where I approached from the passanger side. I lowered my face to the window (which he lowered) and I actually surprised myself at the politeness of my comments, but it was possibly influenced by the shaven-headed, pitbull resembling, meat-head that sat staring at me...
Me: "That was too close mate"
Him (in finest North-End of Birkenhead accent): "I don't give a f***"
Me: "I'm just asking politely that you give me a bit more room next time".
Him: "Get that thing (pointing at the bike) off the f***ing road and on the f***ing pavement..."

It was at this part of the rant that I decided to leave him to it. So he decided to rev and lurch his car forwards and sideways in an attempt to either scare or knock me off whilst simultaneously beeping his horn and flashing his lights... To be honest I was amazed that he had the brain capacity to even attempt more than one thing at once, but then I realised I was potentially in a lot of trouble. I was now ahead of him and he was going to have to overtake me again, when essentially he'd just signalled his intentions. If the previous close pass was unintentional I didn't want to experience an intentional one.

Fortunately I made it through the hazardous area of parked cars straight after the lights and he passed me at a particularly wide stretch. He pulled alongside me and shouted something which unfortunately I didn't catch through the window before speeding off into the distance. I don't think it was "Chapeau sir, good evening to you".

So what's the moral of the tale? What would I have done differently?
Nothing actually. Despite the feeling in my gut that he'd been such a c*ck, I'd feel a hell of a lot worse if I'd had the opportunity to say something to him and chickened out. Perhaps I was lucky he hadn't knocked me off? Nah, most of the time these guys are all talk no trousers. Not on a busy main road with witnesses left, right and centre. Still, I obviously feel bitter about the incident though. I'm off to Argos to buy a punchbag.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Black VW Golfs of the GTI or V5 variety are driven by meatheads. Had something similar 18 months ago and the driver tried to run me off the road. My crime was to sit in a queue of traffic in front of him. He pulled up behind and revved his engine and told me to get out of the way. I turned round and put me arm up in a 'what' gesture. That's when he lost it.

Best advice, let it go they are idiots and take pleasure in passing them in the queue. You can't reason with an idiot.
 

400bhp

Guru
, most of the time these guys are all talk no trousers

This is very true.

It's interesting how these types of idiots are already geared up for confrontation. Once you have their stoc answer you can box them off into the particular character type.
 

Linford

Guest
I had sort of similar happen a few months ago whilst driving when a twit decided to use their (borrowed) Renault van as a weapon of force against me when they tried to force into a pinch point at the end of a long queue which I was at the front of and that they had just jumped.

You can be as agresssive as you want to be on the road, but when things come together, you want to be in the bigger and heavier lump (which I was) - I'd not argue with an agressive car driver if I was on a cycle if I realied that they could easily catch me up and try and bat me off the bike.

Better to avoid confriontation where possible as it could hurt a lot and cost a packet

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sabian92

Über Member
Is it just me or do perfectly rational people become total cockends when they get into a car?

Much like perfectly sensible people leave their common sense when entering an airport or a train station and have to ask questions like "What time does the 10:55 train to Picadilly leave?"
 

I like Skol

A Minging Manc...
The stickers, the Smurf, the car and the driving style. With all these factors what did you really expect? By engaging with the C*CK behind the wheel you were needlessly exposing yourself to the behaviour you experienced.

Next time just remember you have nothing to prove, unlike the small minded pr*ck you encountered who clearly felt he needed to make up for some perceived inadequacy. Rise above the feeling that you have to argue your case or defend your rights and just get on with your journey calmly and above all, as safely as possible.
 
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lejogger

lejogger

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Location
Wirral
The stickers, the Smurf, the car and the driving style. With all these factors what did you really expect? By engaging with the C*CK behind the wheel you were needlessly exposing yourself to the behaviour you experienced.
As I said, I don't think I'd change anything if I had the same experience again.
The stickers were signs of a defensive driver. They had maybe had bad experience of vehicles getting too close and wore them as a warning that they wanted space. I'd have thought therefore they'd have had more sympathy for a cyclist.

I imagine 1% of drivers would have acted as he did. 4% might have engaged in a debate but not necessarily an abusive one. 5% might have apologised. 90% would have stared straight ahead and ignored me but perhaps been more considerate in future.
Like most lads in their early - mid twenties he probably thought he was Mr Amazing and a criticism of his driving touched a nerve, but why should that stop me pointing out that he was being dangerous if I believe that doing so will make the road safer for me and others?
 
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lejogger

lejogger

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Location
Wirral
Next time just remember you have nothing to prove, unlike the small minded pr*ck you encountered who clearly felt he needed to make up for some perceived inadequacy. Rise above the feeling that you have to argue your case or defend your rights and just get on with your journey calmly and above all, as safely as possible.

FWIW, I do acknowledge what you're saying. If we could all take the moral high ground and rise above the actions of idiots then society may be a little calmer and a nicer place, but I think a large amount of us still feel we have a duty to defend ourselves and our actions without being aggressive or confrontational while there are still people who believe they're a law unto themselves and refuse to show consideration for others. It's like being at school again and letting the bully win just because he's bigger and ruder. I'll always stand up for myself and for what I believe in rather than shy meekly away, and if I state my opinion and not lose my head or my temper then I'll feel like I've not let myself or (in this case) cyclists down.
 

I like Skol

A Minging Manc...
As I said, I don't think I'd change anything if I had the same experience again.
The stickers were signs of a defensive driver. They had maybe had bad experience of vehicles getting too close and wore them as a warning that they wanted space. I'd have thought therefore they'd have had more sympathy for a cyclist.

I imagine 1% of drivers would have acted as he did. 4% might have engaged in a debate but not necessarily an abusive one. 5% might have apologised. 90% would have stared straight ahead and ignored me but perhaps been more considerate in future.
Like most lads in their early - mid twenties he probably thought he was Mr Amazing and a criticism of his driving touched a nerve, but why should that stop me pointing out that he was being dangerous if I believe that doing so will make the road safer for me and others?

Good or concerned drivers drive safely, Kn*bheads put stickers on their cars that say if you drive closely they will be as awkward as possible so as to rile you into a confrontation, or will slam on their brakes to cause an accident then claim compo from your insurance. I think your expectations of the sort of driver that will display such stickers are ill judged and need a rethink.
 
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lejogger

lejogger

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Location
Wirral
Good or concerned drivers drive safely, Kn*bheads put stickers on their cars that say if you drive closely they will be as awkward as possible so as to rile you into a confrontation, or will slam on their brakes to cause an accident then claim compo from your insurance. I think your expectations of the sort of driver that will display such stickers are ill judged and need a rethink.
Fair comment when put like that.

Edit: especially given the outcome!
 

I like Skol

A Minging Manc...
It's like being at school again and letting the bully win just because he's bigger and ruder. I'll always stand up for myself and for what I believe in rather than shy meekly away

I think you are over analysing the drivers character. He probably doesn't have thoughts complex enough to be a bully but is rather just playing up to his desire to feel like a 'big man'. The trouble is, he could kill or maim you in an instant and then afterwards he might say oops but more likely he will get really angry about how it was all your fault and now he has to deal with the guilt as a result of 'your actions'!!!!!!!

You will achieve absolutely, 100% of nothing by engaging with this driver as you did. There is nothing cowardly or meek about ignoring him because you just will not get through to an intelligence that grasps the reality of what his vehicle is capable of in his hands. Save your time, anger and adrenalin for when you really need it.
 

downfader

extimus uero philosophus
Location
'ampsheeeer
Guys I think you're targeting your advice at the wrong party here. Lejogger had good intentions. Not all drivers will turn into cavemen.
 
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