Drago
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I got 26, then realised that their faces were in the picture, then looked at the pictures and realised that (i) it didn't help me recognise any of the 15 I didn't get, and (ii) of those I got, I didn't know what some of them looked like!
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Drago
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Sprint quali is interesting.
Piastri on pole, Norris is third.
Max is 6th, but Tsunoda is 5th and can probably be relied upon to let him pass with little drama. He then only needs to dispatch Alonso and then he'll be sniffing for a go at Norris.
Meanwhile Wuthell is second and is doubtless going to put up a fight which will slow Norris down...but will that be enough to push him into Verstappen's clutches?
Who knows?
Im not a sprint race fan but this has the potential to be very spicy.
Piastri on pole, Norris is third.
Max is 6th, but Tsunoda is 5th and can probably be relied upon to let him pass with little drama. He then only needs to dispatch Alonso and then he'll be sniffing for a go at Norris.
Meanwhile Wuthell is second and is doubtless going to put up a fight which will slow Norris down...but will that be enough to push him into Verstappen's clutches?
Who knows?
Im not a sprint race fan but this has the potential to be very spicy.
biggs682
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What a farce in Saudi Arabia wrc event it looks like a single venue event in an old quarry yes again money has influenced the governing body
Drago
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Well, McLaren certainly ballsed that up. They could have had a first and third but decided a second an fourth was more their thing. Their strategy was so bad Oscar overruled the team 2/3 in and decided his own pitstop.
So now three drivers head into the final race with a chance of taking the title, each with 7 wins to their name this season.
So now three drivers head into the final race with a chance of taking the title, each with 7 wins to their name this season.
Drago
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I see Helmut is bleating thst Antonelli deliberately yielded and allowed Norris to pass.
Possible, such things have happened in the past where there is a driver, engine, or manufacturer link of some kind, but Antonelli immediately start to lose 3 or 4 laps after that so I favour a car or tyre problem.
I never had much of an issue with Red Bull Spice. Most of his best sound bites were in response to something someone else had said (only for the person who'd started it, usually Tonto, to then pretend to be upset/astonished/enraged because Horner was quicker on his feet verbally), but Marko is just a prat IMHO.
Possible, such things have happened in the past where there is a driver, engine, or manufacturer link of some kind, but Antonelli immediately start to lose 3 or 4 laps after that so I favour a car or tyre problem.
I never had much of an issue with Red Bull Spice. Most of his best sound bites were in response to something someone else had said (only for the person who'd started it, usually Tonto, to then pretend to be upset/astonished/enraged because Horner was quicker on his feet verbally), but Marko is just a prat IMHO.
classic33
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Antonellie went off/left the track, losing tim, allowing Norris to pass.
Drago
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Aye, didnt look at all suspicious to me.
AndyRM
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As much as I enjoy watching F1, the lengths they've reached in trying to add excitement to this season are ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, it's been fun, but you'd have to be seriously naive to imagine this hasn't all been set up for Abu Dhabi.
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I think he, they, are in that toxic mindset of everything is against them everyone is out to get them...
They look for it, so they find it, they then find it or interpret it that way so they look more and harder... ad infinitum. The more anyone tries to tell them otherwise they more convinced they are everyone's against them.
I thought it was a Horner thing.... perhaps it was, perhaps it wasnt, but it remains. I'm not sure having Max in the team would exactly be a wholly positive influence... Nor Jos.
They've lost that youthful fun upstart, bucking against the establishment vibe, they've lost the polished slick winning machine... They've lost that unique vibe.
A lot of people think next year might not be good for them either if it's not, it'll be interesting to see how they handle it.
Drago
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I think its a Helmut thing. For the most part Horny was usually, albeit not always, responsive to mud thrown his way and those slinging it then didn't like it besause his tongue was sharper than theirs.
Dr Marko usually just talks bollards, and occasionally bollards with racist overtones.
And the team could perhaps be forgiven for sometimes thinking along those lines. People forget that when Totty Wolf went public about his mental health struggles it was Horner who was first to speak out in support of his rival, yet when Horner is having personal problems old Totty decides to stick the knife in and repeatedly call for his resignation - not exactly the honourable thing to do considering the magnamimity Horner had show Totty over his personal struggles.
I dont think any of them are paragons of virtue, and when one examines the minutiae its quite often not RB who the bad guys, yet the media and fans persist in perpetuating that narrative. Just now and again I can understand a little paranoia on their part, but not in this case and definitely not from the walking liability that is Marko.
I think yesterday's result, both Max's peerless driving and the teams surgically prescient strategy call, showed theyre a long long way from having lost their polished and slick winning machine attributes. For Max to come from over 100 points behind to suddenly be hounding his two championship rivals downnto the last race shows exactly the opposite.
Dr Marko usually just talks bollards, and occasionally bollards with racist overtones.
And the team could perhaps be forgiven for sometimes thinking along those lines. People forget that when Totty Wolf went public about his mental health struggles it was Horner who was first to speak out in support of his rival, yet when Horner is having personal problems old Totty decides to stick the knife in and repeatedly call for his resignation - not exactly the honourable thing to do considering the magnamimity Horner had show Totty over his personal struggles.
I dont think any of them are paragons of virtue, and when one examines the minutiae its quite often not RB who the bad guys, yet the media and fans persist in perpetuating that narrative. Just now and again I can understand a little paranoia on their part, but not in this case and definitely not from the walking liability that is Marko.
I think yesterday's result, both Max's peerless driving and the teams surgically prescient strategy call, showed theyre a long long way from having lost their polished and slick winning machine attributes. For Max to come from over 100 points behind to suddenly be hounding his two championship rivals downnto the last race shows exactly the opposite.
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biggs682
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Totally agree it was the same last weekend in the wrc final event in another oil rich country.
biggs682
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At least one of the McLarens should have pitted once the team could see what was happening with all the others.
I can understand why they didn't pit the next lap as they would have been behind loads of cars .
And pretty sure Oscar was asking for softs for his last stint but got hards I think.
And why are they racing on such a track where overtaking is hard
I can understand why they didn't pit the next lap as they would have been behind loads of cars .
And pretty sure Oscar was asking for softs for his last stint but got hards I think.
And why are they racing on such a track where overtaking is hard
ebikeerwidnes
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It does seem like McLaren have given away the drivers championship due to bad decisions at times
We - i.e. my wife and I - have been talking about how much better Max seems lately - he always seemed like a grumpy old git with no sense of humour
but he has started to be seem laughing and smiling around the place and seeming far more friendly to everyone rather than his old attitude
which could be due to Horner leaving or him having a baby recently
and at the same time he has started doing a lot better in terms of the driver championship
now - putting those together and we could possibly think that the main thing was Horner leaving and the whole team is suddenly functioning better
and Max is happier overall - hence his attitude change and mental attitude does help a lot
but also maybe the car is better as well - we certainly wonder is they went too far down a "whatever Max wants is right" thing with the car and basically it went too far and in reality they were doing things "for Max" when in reality is they ended up with a car that only Max could drive and when it got wors ethey just carried ond own the road
Then Horner left and people who could jolly Max along and talk to him better and started to make the car better as a whole car and hence Max felt better as he was being talked to differently AND the car was getting better overall and not just in the way of "this is what we think Max wants"
which is all probably b****x but we have to woffle about something when the car are just going round and round in circles and no-one can pass anyone
I do wonder why they don;t change the tracks or rules to make passing easier
and I do suspect the "you can only do 25 laps for safety reasons" might have had an element of forcing an extra pit stop so make passing "in the pits" more likely
which got messed up by the crash at exactly the point where it mandated stopping at exactly the same lap for nearly everyone
anyway - time for brekkie - s must stop typing rubbish
We - i.e. my wife and I - have been talking about how much better Max seems lately - he always seemed like a grumpy old git with no sense of humour
but he has started to be seem laughing and smiling around the place and seeming far more friendly to everyone rather than his old attitude
which could be due to Horner leaving or him having a baby recently
and at the same time he has started doing a lot better in terms of the driver championship
now - putting those together and we could possibly think that the main thing was Horner leaving and the whole team is suddenly functioning better
and Max is happier overall - hence his attitude change and mental attitude does help a lot
but also maybe the car is better as well - we certainly wonder is they went too far down a "whatever Max wants is right" thing with the car and basically it went too far and in reality they were doing things "for Max" when in reality is they ended up with a car that only Max could drive and when it got wors ethey just carried ond own the road
Then Horner left and people who could jolly Max along and talk to him better and started to make the car better as a whole car and hence Max felt better as he was being talked to differently AND the car was getting better overall and not just in the way of "this is what we think Max wants"
which is all probably b****x but we have to woffle about something when the car are just going round and round in circles and no-one can pass anyone
I do wonder why they don;t change the tracks or rules to make passing easier
and I do suspect the "you can only do 25 laps for safety reasons" might have had an element of forcing an extra pit stop so make passing "in the pits" more likely
which got messed up by the crash at exactly the point where it mandated stopping at exactly the same lap for nearly everyone
anyway - time for brekkie - s must stop typing rubbish