Motorsports Thread

[rustybolts]

Anyone who isn't aligned with Ben Sulayem seems to suffer a careerorectomy.

Indeed, he is a pretty obnoxious douchebag , plenty of money and Trumplike in many respects

 

[Reynard]

Indeed, he is a pretty obnoxious douchebag , plenty of money and Trumplike in many respects

He makes Jean-Marie Balestre seem like a paragon of virtue... Having said that, I strongly suspect that Ben Sulayem has other people pulling his strings, because while he was a decent enough in a rally car BITD, he was fairly anonymous in the grand scheme of things.

 

[gbb]

Damon Hill is most definitely *not* holier than though. That's the façade he likes to project - and protect. The reality isn't quite so shiny, though he vehemently denies any wrongdoing. The problem with motor racing is that the wrong people get put on a pedestal for all the wrong reasons.

I won't say more than that, because I could get into trouble for saying the truth.

I like to think of 'incidents' on the track in percentage terms. Every single driver will have them, mostly forgettable but the most important, race changing ones will and are always remembered. They're racing wheel to wheel, millisecond decisions at immense speed, I rarely find myself jumping up and down at indiscretions. But they add up..it tells you a story about some drivers habits.

 

[Reynard]

I like to think of 'incidents' on the track in percentage terms. Every single driver will have them, mostly forgettable but the most important, race changing ones will and are always remembered. They're racing wheel to wheel, millisecond decisions at immense speed, I rarely find myself jumping up and down at indiscretions. But they add up..it tells you a story about some drivers habits.

In Damon's case, I wasn't talking about his actions on track. It were his actions in the garage.

 

[Drago]

Although he's not blameless on track either.

A wronged driver having a bleat is all well and good if their own record is impeccable, otherwise it's just hot air and they look like tools.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Although he's not blameless on track either.

A wronged driver having a bleat is all well and good if their own record is impeccable, otherwise it's just hot air and they look like tools.

You don;t get to that sort of level without having been somewhat ruthless on the track at time

So no driver will ever be lilly white and angelic

but some are better than others
and certain action are just wrong and clearly so

and even if someone has done that exact same thing themselves - they can still say it is wrong
OK - they would then have to accept they were wrong in doing it themselves but they can still judge it

 

[Drago]

So no driver will ever be lilly white and angelic

No indeed, but criticising a driver for doing something and then doing exactly the same yourself the following season isn't merely a case of shades of grey - its outright hypocrisy.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

No indeed, but criticising a driver for doing something and then doing exactly the same yourself the following season isn't merely a case of shades of grey - its outright hypocrisy.

True - I was more thinking of retired drivers as commentators and "experts"

but at the end of the day any F1 driver is ruthless and will do things they would criticise another driver for off track