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The cynic in me says quality of components.

I've never noticed that at work.

However, the saddles are often different.
 
The same is true of a lot of (but not all) junior bikes as well.

That is a problem, certainly, although here there are at least better specced bikes for kids to ride to school (albeit at a higher cost).

I feel some sympathy for the manufacturers in that case because parents generally want their kids bikes to be cheap, because the offspring grow, and also they don't expect their pre school kids to ride more then a few hundred metres at a time, possibly in a day.

Small people riding 30+k on a kiddie bike are not a big market I suspect...

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That is a problem, certainly, although here there are at least better specced bikes for kids to ride to school (albeit at a higher cost).

I feel some sympathy for the manufacturers in that case because parents generally want their kids bikes to be cheap, because the offspring grow, and also they don't expect their pre school kids to ride more then a few hundred metres at a time, possibly in a day.

Small people riding 30+k on a kiddie bike are not a big market I suspect...

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That girl's really earned her ice cream :okay:

Totally get what you're saying. Kids bikes, especially the ones at the lower end of the price spectrum, are essentially seen as disposable. Why fit good parts to something that's going to be used, abused and then binned? Or ignored, and then binned.

Both my Wiggins bikes were very well-specced for the money - Claris on the road bike, along with Microshift brifters and Tektro brakes. The hybrid has an Altus drive train and matching trigger shifters. Can't remember what the mechanical discs are, but most probably Tektro as well. I take care of my stuff, so there's life in that lot yet. Shame they've stopped making Wiggins bikes, as they were a good alternative to Frog at that particular price point.

The Raleigh on the other hand... The only components left from the original bike are the canti brakes and the seatpost. Everything else was given the grand order of the boot. Plastic brake levers... FFS!!! It's such a shame the components were made of cheese, as the frame itself is nice (albeit a touch heavy) and feels very sure-footed on the gnarly stuff.
 
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I've been sent to Coventry...

Welcome. ^_^:laugh:
 

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Agree, but on the condition that waste from the one house only. None from elsewhere.

Shouldn't a rebate/reduction be due to fossyant on the basis of what has already been removed?

Sadly you are being very logical, in a good way.

When clearing someone's house after a death, logic could be in short supply, or non-existent. (Present company (@fossyant ) excepted.)

Three of the most traumatic days of my life were spent clearing the attic of my Parent's house a few years after my Father's death. My mother was still living there. My Brother was supposed to be helping me.

His idea of "help" was to put everything in the skip, including artwork created by my Uncle for my Brother. It was a beautiful panorama about fifteen feet long depicting the Bristol skyline.

Also an antique rocking horse kept by my parents for my niece, until she had a house and children of her own to put it in, and about umpty-twelve other items of sentimental value.

He should have just left me to clear the attic. I would have brought down the good, usable items and gradually re-homed them. Years ago everyone kept the boxes from things they bought, so they could be removed last, with all the resident spiders and flies.

There was room in the house for the larger good items to stay until their new owners collected them.
 

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I think my Brother was consumed by guilt at not being on good terms with my Father.

I felt (thought) that he was trying to throw out my Father's possessions without any thought.
My distraught Mother was witness to all this, but my Brother could not keep a civil tongue in his head. There were, of course, items up in the attic that belonged to my Mother.
 
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