My (almost) run in with the law

[Origamist]

Not really, the cyclist didn't have to slow down or alter course. Looks like the motorcyclist made good progress to me.

Now my flame proof coat is on and I'm going to hide.

You can't easily tell whether the cyclist slowed/braked from the footage. However, you can see that the cyclist moves a foot or two to the right on the approach to the junction in order to make himself more conspicuous.

As the frame grab below highlights - it's v close and it was poor judgement by the police motorcyclist. IME, this is unusual as it's cyclists and motorcyclists who bear the brunt of motorists' inattentional blindness (looming, motion camouflge etc).



Personally, I'd not report it and hope that the more savvy police rider (who stopped at the junction and appears to have clocked what happened) would have a word in his ear.

 

[GrasB]

A second later could apply to most things, and what if ect. Glad you agree though.

A fair few years ago I was driving along minding my own business when someone pulls out from a side road when I'm too close, close enough that I'm not going to be able to stop by the junction. At this point it's not a huge problem just annoying to have to jump on the brakes very hard because someone couldn't be bothered to wait for a proper space. However this time the rules change, the car doesn't accelerate away at all & actually slows down - I'd guess he had spun the inside front up & then changed up, the engine then partially stalled/miss fired as the next gear was fed in which caused noticeable engine braking. I know I can't stop before the junction he pulled out of, I can't pull into the oposite lane because that's a head on collision, no the safest option is to go down the road he'd just pulled out of. Through some skill & luck I manage to chuck the car into the turning he came out & slid/spun to a halt turning the car through about 230 degrees from my orignal direction of travel. He was lucky he picked to pull out on me, had he done that with most drivers they would have frozen on the brakes & t-boned him. So an annoyance turned into a real problem because just one thing happened... this is why you don't take big risks, because some times s**t happens & even a relatively safe speeds it happens quickly.

 

[benb]

A second later could apply to most things, and what if ect. Glad you agree though.

Oh do shut up, it's obvious I don't agree with you, and equally obvious that the motorcycle pulled out when he shouldn't.

If that's how you decide whether something's safe, you should play russian roulette. There's a 5/6 chance of it being perfectly safe.

 

[col]

I don't recall any positive opinions by you Col, of any other cyclist, ever. Am I mistaken, or are you just a Bloodbus member here to snipe at cyclists. I'm not even convinced you're actually a cyclist, to be frank.

Well frank, I gave my opinion and you accuse me of something as usual, with an insult thrown in. As well you know, Iv looked on bloodbus at the same time magnatron did, until he lost his temper because I had an opinion about some of his vids that he didnt like. But havnt been on it for a long while, as its mostly one sided in favour of buses strangely enough. As for not being a cyclist, your really trying to flame and bait as usual. So frank, if you cant handle my opinion with out spitting your dummy out, dont read it. Pleeeese put me on ignore if thats the only way you can control your temper tantrums. Oh and Iv probably been cycling longer than you have been out of nappies, which doesnt seem like it might be that long, going on your reaction to me lately? Chin up and keep smiling young un

 

[col]

Oh do shut up, it's obvious I don't agree with you, and equally obvious that the motorcycle pulled out when he shouldn't.

If that's how you decide whether something's safe, you should play russian roulette. There's a 5/6 chance of it being perfectly safe.

I was being sarky, seems to be the prefered thing by some But your highlighted words did invite it

 

[col]

A fair few years ago I was driving along minding my own business when someone pulls out from a side road when I'm too close, close enough that I'm not going to be able to stop by the junction. At this point it's not a huge problem just annoying to have to jump on the brakes very hard because someone couldn't be bothered to wait for a proper space. However this time the rules change, the car doesn't accelerate away at all & actually slows down - I'd guess he had spun the inside front up & then changed up, the engine then partially stalled/miss fired as the next gear was fed in which caused noticeable engine braking. I know I can't stop before the junction he pulled out of, I can't pull into the oposite lane because that's a head on collision, no the safest option is to go down the road he'd just pulled out of. Through some skill & luck I manage to chuck the car into the turning he came out & slid/spun to a halt turning the car through about 230 degrees from my orignal direction of travel. He was lucky he picked to pull out on me, had he done that with most drivers they would have frozen on the brakes & t-boned him. So an annoyance turned into a real problem because just one thing happened... this is why you don't take big risks, because some times s**t happens & even a relatively safe speeds it happens quickly.

I do agree with you G, but some will keep pushing on no matter what. Again it seems I might be the only one , but I generally slow and treat junctions as possible danger areas. And if i see anything there I expect them to pull out.

 

[col]

You can't easily tell whether the cyclist slowed/braked from the footage. However, you can see that the cyclist moves a foot or two to the right on the approach to the junction in order to make himself more conspicuous.

As the frame grab below highlights - it's v close and it was poor judgement by the police motorcyclist. IME, this is unusual as it's cyclists and motorcyclists who bear the brunt of motorists' inattentional blindness (looming, motion camouflge etc).



Personally, I'd not report it and hope that the more savvy police rider (who stopped at the junction and appears to have clocked what happened) would have a word in his ear.

I would agree with you here, if it wasnt for the fact he did his move out at the last second. I wonder why?

 

[Origamist]

I would agree with you here, if it wasnt for the fact he did his move out at the last second. I wonder why?

It is one aspect of what is known "SMIDSY Evasion" - it is recommended that you move more to the right, than to the left (but still weave) on the approach.

There was little point changing lateral position earlier as the motorcyclist was not looking to his right then.

 

[BentMikey]

Remind us Col, why are you even a member here if you only ever seem to criticise cyclists? Are you just trolling and looking for reactions?

 

[col]

Remind us Col, why are you even a member here if you only ever seem to criticise cyclists? Are you just trolling and looking for reactions?

Trolling and reactions?Thats your job frank. If I see something that looks a little off to me , I tend to say . Funny that dont you think frank, on a forum that posts for other peoples opinions?

 

[BentMikey]

Your goal for the week is to see if you can post something positive about some cycling from someone on here.

 

[col]

And your thoughts about how it would have been had it been a car rather than a cyclist coming down the road?

Probably a different scenario Involving faster speeds and larger vehicles. Whats your opinion on this?

 

[col]

It is one aspect of what is known "SMIDSY Evasion" - it is recommended that you move more to the right, than to the left (but still weave) on the approach.

There was little point changing lateral position earlier as the motorcyclist was not looking to his right then.

So moving closer to the vehicle your waving at for being too close is the way to go? If done further down the road yes, but not at the so called danger, or possible impact point. Thats just making the situation worse, especially if your claiming you havnt been seen. My reaction if I dont think Iv been seen, is to slow and keep away.

 

[spen666]

to say if the op felt it was uncomfortable then it was uncomfortable is plainly nonsense

If I say I feel you are a pillock, does that mean you are a pillock or does it just mean I feel you are a pillock.

You are applying a nonsensical approach to something.

If the police officer was traced and said he felt it was not uncomfortable, then does that mean on your test that it was not uncomfortable?

 

[col]

Your goal for the week is to see if you can post something positive about some cycling from someone on here.

I accept your mission sir, now hang on while I get out of the way while it self destructs
Now that wasnt difficult was it? Being pleasant instead of not.