My Car hates me..........

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Breedon

Legendary Member
Bloody cars, my wifes one over heated on the A52 last week she phoned up i thought head gasket, AA man comes out said thermostat knackerd and radiator is leaking slightly.

Towed it to our local garage but the guy was a way for a few days so we had to take it to fiat, towed it there and £450 worse off, used every day
 

Mr Pig

New Member
Breedon said:
so we had to take it to fiat

If you want a car that'll be reliable for many years do not buy anything made in France or Italy.
 

swee'pea99

Squire
I was once told 'if you want reliability, durability and low depreciation, buy German.' It's worked for me. (Before that I had a couple of old French cars - nightmare!)
 

Mr Pig

New Member
Breedon said:
LOL now you tell me.

That's what the young girl in the office said the other day when I said that to her! She's got Renault Twingo that's given her monstrous grief. It kept dying, wouldn't start or do anything, and the dealer kept telling her it was now fixed. After a year she'd had enough and demanded her money back. The dealer refused but she wouldn't take the car back so it's been parked at the dealer's for about two months while this dispute carries on.

She's having to borrow cars top get to work and is still having to pay for the non-working Renault parked at the dealer's. It's real shame, her first car and it's been a nightmare.

A family at church came out after the service to find their Renault people carrier would not start. The latest of many incidents. Last year a guy at work went out to his Laguna to find that most of the dashboard wouldn't light up! Car started and drove ok so he took it to the dealer who said "Yeah, they can sometimes do that when it's cold"!! It wasn't that cold. A few days later his son's Megane did exactly the same thing!

Folk next door had two Clios and the boys pal along the road also had one. All three developed the same starting problem, reluctant to start then a puff of big smoke when they did fire up. By the time the car had driven to the dealers though it was fine so dealer said there was nothing they could do. My neighbour left the car at the dealer's overnight so that they could see the problem. It had failed to start properly every day for two weeks yet dealer said that it started fine! They now drive Two Hondas and a Seat.

My bosses daughter came out of the shops to her Peugeot with her two kids and shopping to find it would not open. Central locking did not work and the key wouldn't open the door. Dealer had to lift it onto a lorry.

Used to be friendly with a guy who's family owned a Nisssan dealership. Turned out that they had previously been a Fiat dealership but got sick of having to fix their cars all the time. They would often have to repair brand new cars before they could be sold. One car arrived without the rear tow hook and a new boot floor had to be welded in before the car could be sold. I asked if Renault buying Nissan had made any difference to reliability and he said "Yes, noticed it fairly quickly". Straight away Renault had substituted cheaper parts and changed suppliers and made the cars less reliable. They were now getting problems, with things like washer bottles, that had never ever given trouble before.

Mate of mine got a Fiat as his first company car, despite me urging him not to. Man the trouble he had with it! Electrics were hopeless, engine was so noisy they eventually changed it and the glove box kept falling open. It was a shambles.

All of these cars were bought brand new and the faults occurred within the first year or two. I'm sure they make the odd good car but I wouldn't risk it!
 
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Rammy
As I hinted earlier, I'm convinced reliability has gone down since the 90's for two reasons, one cutting costs, the other being the more high tech stuck on the car increasing the chance of it going wrong.

i have the afore mentioned fiesta (awaiting a little work so not being used at the moment) and my wife drives a 1996 Suzuki swift

it has only given us problems twice in the last two years, one was the origional radiator springing a leak (£60 later I'd swapped it) and having problems starting as the spark plugs were overdue a change by about a year.

i'm expecting it to die within the next five years due to rust that is starting to appear, I don't expect it to fail mechanically

want a reliable car? get a mid 90's swift!
 

Mr Pig

New Member
Black Sheep said:
I'm convinced reliability has gone down for two reasons, cutting costs and more high tech stuck on the car

I agree with both. Our car has a computer-controlled climate control system, if anything goes wrong with it there would be nothing you could do. Years ago it was cables and levers! Why do we need all this stuff? Cables and levers worked perfectly well.

It mainly seems to be the electrics on French and Italian cars. I've yet to be convinced that anyone builds cars better, or even as well as, the Japanese and I think it's mainly down to the work ethic they have. They take great pride in what they do, from the designers down to the guy putting the bolts in. They wiped out our domestic electronics industry a couple of decades ago for exactly the same reason.

It's not as clear cut these days, with most manufacturers being multinational, but I still think where a car is built matters.
 
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Rammy
Mr Pig said:
I agree with both. Our car has a computer-controlled climate control system, if anything goes wrong with it there would be nothing you could do. Years ago it was cables and levers! Why do we need all this stuff? Cables and levers worked perfectly well.

It mainly seems to be the electrics on French and Italian cars. I've yet to be convinced that anyone builds cars better, or even as well as, the Japanese and I think it's mainly down to the work ethic they have. They take great pride in what they do, from the designers down to the guy putting the bolts in. They wiped out our domestic electronics industry a couple of decades ago for exactly the same reason.

It's not as clear cut these days, with most manufacturers being multinational, but I still think where a car is built matters.


indeed, see many triumph aclaims these days?
the honda civic still going strong tho

they started out as the same car (joint project) and badge engineeredyness
 
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fossyant

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Our 10 year old Yaris has been brill - had it since new. Only parts it's had are a water pump (£120 fitted by toyota), central door locking motor (£50 second hand fitted by me) and a washer pump (last week - £68 fitted by me)....

Pretty good for 10 years. I service it myself as well.

Despite my car hating me, it's been fine since it had a run - will get another run this weekend - with bikes on roof..... Despite all it's trickery, in the 6 years it's had a battery, a boot switch, and a new air con condenser (stone damaged)...not bad really. I also service it myself, despite the electronic trickery controlling all car systems from a screen.

Usual tyres and brake pads etc.....

We have the 'offer' of a 3 year old Prius from a relative, but we'll give that a miss - it's now out of warrenty - god knows what that will cost to fix if any of that goes wrong.
 

thomas

the tank engine
Location
Woking/Norwich
Black Sheep said:
I'll sell you my 1980 fiesta 1.3 ghia.

it sits for 7 months of the year and starts first time at the turn of the key after those 7 months, as soon as its been backed down the drive and driven 100 yards allong the road its fine :biggrin:

The fiesta I drove had a few problems with brake lights switches. The first time they just randomly flashed on and off. The second time they didn't work at all.

Thankfully the first time my friend was behind me so it wasn't an issue, the second time (having driven about 30 miles) a chap quickly pulls along side and tells me. It was only a mile from home but I was being extra careful that no one went into the back.

Other than that, pretty reliable car ;)
 
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