My e-mail to Boris

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Bugner

New Member
Location
Sarf London
Below is an e-mail that I sent to Boris regarding motorcyles allowed in Bus Lanes...

Dear Mr Johnson,

I commute by bicycle daily into Central London from Bromley, a trip of approximately 12.5 miles. I use the bus lanes where I can and currently have to deal with impatient bus drivers and taxi drivers, who rev their engines very close to my back wheel or dangerous overtaking manoeuvres where these vehicle pass far too close. I am also occasionally 'buzzed' by speeding motorcyclists who ignore the current legislation and use the bus lane as a fast track to overtake vehicles.

I am therefore writing to you in respect of your decision to allow motorbikes to use bus lanes and would be grateful if you would answer the following questions.

Your initiative 'Way to Go' includes smoothing traffic flow.
I would like to know how enabling motorcycles into the bus lane will improve the said traffic flow and ease congestion?
Whenever there is a traffic jam in London it hardly ever contains motorcycles as they are able to make their way
along side the traffic! It is stated that only bus lanes along red-route zones are going to be allowed to be used by motorcycles.

Firstly how are motorcyclists going to know which bus lanes they can and can't use. Secondly how will this be policed?
Some motorcyclists currently break the law, yet I have yet to see one occasion this year when an offender has been stopped. The scheme is going to be trialled for 18 months. How are you going to monitor the scheme? What are the measurement criteria and benchmarks to
determine if the scheme is a success?

As you are probably aware there has been a recent spate of incidents involving large lorries and cyclists. I believe that allowing motorcyclists to use bus lanes will create another regular occurrence of accidents. I can see a typical scenario happening where a cyclist swerves slightly to miss a pothole, but remains in the bus lane and is then hit by a passing motorcyclist.

Mr Johnson, as you have declared on your website that you are a 'passionate cyclist'. I would like to invite you to join me for a commute to and from work one day to really experience what the majority of commuting cyclists have to experience day in, day out with the general traffic, public transport, pedestrians, potholes and other obstacles let alone having to contend with motorcycles.

Additionally, I recommend that you stand on the south side of
London Bridge at 6am in the morning and witness the number of motorcycles that use the bridge as an opportunity to get from 0-60mph in as short as time possible.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Yours faithfully
 
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Bugner

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Location
Sarf London
Their standard response received...

Thank you for your email to the Mayor of London regarding motorcycles in bus lanes. I have been asked to reply.
The Mayor made a manifesto commitment to allowing motorcycles to use bus lanes and he has asked Transport for London to trial it on their roads. The Mayor is keen to reduce congestion in London and a switch to motorbikes would be one of the ways to achieve this objective. As a committed cyclist himself, the Mayor also has an obvious interest in ensuring the capital's roads are safe for cyclists, and reports commissioned on TfL's behalf did not predict a significant increase in accidents to pedestrians or cyclists.
The Mayor is aware that motorcycles already use bus lanes successfully, and safely, in several areas of London and other cities. This scheme will be on a trial basis for 18 months with ongoing consultation. If the Mayor sees positive effects of the trial, then it will be made permanent. The Mayor has made a commitment to continue with safety awareness campaigns and cycle training. Furthermore, he has asked TfL to push forward with developing cycle highways from outer London to the centre to improve the quality and safety for cyclists along these routes.
Thank you once again for writing to the Mayor on this issue. If you have any further comments or enquiries on this matter these should be addressed to Transport for London's streets management team, who will be overseeing this scheme on behalf of the Mayor.
 
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Bugner

New Member
Location
Sarf London
My follow up e-mail...

Thank you for your response. However, the answer below seems to be a standard response and you have not answered any of my questions. Furthermore, you state that the report comissioned did not predict a significant increase in accidents.
Firtsly, on what basis was this prediction made?
Secondly, if you are using the word 'significantly' it suggests that there is a prediction of an increase in accidents but not a significant one? Does that mean that there is a tolerance to accidents as long as motorbikes in bus lanes will supposedly improve congestion??
I would appreciate a personal response to this question and my previous questions posed.
 

zimzum42

Legendary Member
Do you honestly think he's got the time to send you a personal response. There must be thousands of nutters writing to him every day.

good luck
 

Flying_Monkey

Recyclist
Location
Odawa
zimzum42 said:
Do you honestly think he's got the time to send you a personal response. There must be thousands of nutters writing to him every day.

good luck

Elected politicians usually employ people to answer such letters. It is one of the responsibilities of an elected position in a democracy to answer serious questions from constituents. If he can't be bothered to do it then he shouldn't be in the job.
 
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Bugner

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Location
Sarf London
I know I wont get a personal response from him, the 2nd e-mail was directed to the individual (liaison officer from tfl) who responded to me about the 1st e-mail.

If they have said person whose job it is to liaise with the public re transport queries, they could at least answer the questions posed rather than send a stock answer.

As the Mayor and his supporting bodies are represeting the London community, they surely have a duty to answer questions from that community. I don't think my questions are unreasonable, I would just like to understand the logic and criteria for their decisons.

The word that worries me in that response is 'significant' Does that mean the Mayor is willing to accept a 2% increase in accidents as long as congestion is improved!?!?
 

zimzum42

Legendary Member
He must be receiving hundreds of letters from cyclists, well, your letter and hundreds from Spinners...

I can see your point, but I reckon you let yourself down with suggestions about standing on london bridge and so on, you get a bit flippant. You could make it shorter and more to the point.

I guess it doesn't help that i don't agree with your POV, but hey, we're all different...
 

LLB

Guest
Bugner said:
I know I wont get a personal response from him, the 2nd e-mail was directed to the individual (liaison officer from tfl) who responded to me about the 1st e-mail.

If they have said person whose job it is to liaise with the public re transport queries, they could at least answer the questions posed rather than send a stock answer.

As the Mayor and his supporting bodies are represeting the London community, they surely have a duty to answer questions from that community. I don't think my questions are unreasonable, I would just like to understand the logic and criteria for their decisons.

The word that worries me in that response is 'significant' Does that mean the Mayor is willing to accept a 2% increase in accidents as long as congestion is improved!?!?

As stated, it was already laid out in his manifesto. He is simply carrying out the wishes of the majority who voted him in.
 

Jake

New Member
PROTEST!! get all the cyclists to hog the bus lanes at the same time to stop anything overtaking and using teh bus lanes. hmmm, ok i can see a problem there, but still. stop the bikes stop teh bikes, do i hear a hell yeah! (ps dying of man flu so not making much sense and not cycling at mo)
 

CotterPin

Senior Member
Location
London
LLB said:
As stated, it was already laid out in his manifesto. He is simply carrying out the wishes of the majority who voted him in.

Well, the congestion charge was in Ken Livingstone's original maniefesto. That didn't prevent people campaigning against it once he was elected.
 

LLB

Guest
CotterPin said:
Well, the congestion charge was in Ken Livingstone's original maniefesto. That didn't prevent people campaigning against it once he was elected.

It wasn't a permanent solution given the numbers have risen now they have got used to paying it - It is just another tax :sad:
 

CotterPin

Senior Member
Location
London
LLB said:
It wasn't a permanent solution given the numbers have risen now they have got used to paying it - It is just another tax :ohmy:

My point was that this was a manifesto commitment of a Mayor of London. Your earlier point re the current mayor's policy on motorbikes in bus lanes could equally be applied to this earlier case. You choose opposition to the congestion charge - others choose opposition to this policy. Live and let live. :rolleyes:
 

LLB

Guest
CotterPin said:
My point was that this was a manifesto commitment of a Mayor of London. Your earlier point re the current mayor's policy on motorbikes in bus lanes could equally be applied to this earlier case. You choose opposition to the congestion charge - others choose opposition to this policy. Live and let live. :rolleyes:

I think the only ones who don't oppose it are the ones who are not forced to pay it :ohmy:
 

CotterPin

Senior Member
Location
London
LLB said:
I think the only ones who don't oppose it are the ones who are not forced to pay it :rolleyes:

Naturally - and the people who are not opposed to the motorbike scheme are those who feel it will benefit them. The people opposed to the Congestion Charge are those who feel it will have a negative impact on them. Ditto those against the motorbike scheme.

I think we are singing from the same hymn sheet, here, Linf!!!
 
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