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4F

Active member of Helmets Are Sh*t Lobby
Location
Suffolk.
Another vote for Skoda, I have an Octavia estate which is a fantastic car for the money. I had a Fiat once, never again......
 

asterix

Comrade Member
Location
Limoges or York
I had a Fiat once, never again......

It was a Fiat worse than Daf?
 

Cletus Van Damme

Previously known as Cheesney Hawks
Worst car I have ever owned was a Mk1 Volkwagen Scirocco. It was an utter POS and I vowed never ever to buy another VW after having to sleep in it when it broke down early one morning in the 80's. But I think I would probably have a VAG car now as they are much better but it would be a Skoda to avoid brand tax.
 
Location
Rammy
If your not a badge snob get a Kia. You will get much more for your money they have a long warranty so they must be a good car. Highly rated in the motoring press too. My next car will be one as I could not care less about cars and just want something that is reliable and offers good value for money.


That's what they want you to think, they are no worse than anyone else, but not much better, same as the warranty, yes it's a 7 year warranty, longer than any other manufacturer, however, like most others it is only certain things that are covered for the full 7 years,

as an example year 1, warranty excludes tyres, wipers and consumables
year 2, as above, but also now excludes wear and tear to fabric interior
year 3, as above, but also excluding minor electrical faults
and so on

basically, read the small print before buying if the warranty is a selling point to you.

main selling point for me on a Kia is my father in law - his has lasted 10 years, it sees a garage once a year for it's MOT unless something causes it to actually stop working. It's still going strong.



Mrs Gti has just bought a SEAT Ibiza and underneath the rather subtle body it's actually a Polo. Everything works as it should and although the 1.2 diesel engine isn't the smoothest I'm sure it will give reliable service and good MPG once it's run in.
our 1.2 diesel Ibiza ST is providing good service, I make sure it is allowed to rev a bit from time to time to ensure the particulate filter never clogs although I've not heard of an ibiza doing so.
 

screenman

Squire
Black Sheep, the clue is in the words like consumables, wear and tear and minor electrical in your list.

As for the particulate filter on that car, well loads have failed. I should know as my mate down the pub told me.^_^
 
If we ar dragging up old Fiat car stories then to balance things - my mother had a Skoda, it kept breaking down and went rusty.
(But this was in 1972 when they had the engine in the back)

Generally as we are looking at a second had car at about 5 years old, the market will decide on the price and desirability of the car.
Personally I would say go for a Pug 307 but really almost all cars are rather good these days and as Fiats are genearally better than their reputation you can get a bargain.
 
If we ar dragging up old Fiat car stories then to balance things - my mother had a Skoda, it kept breaking down and went rusty.
(But this was in 1972 when they had the engine in the back)

Like the 105 & 130?

Personally I'd love a good 110/130 Coupe
http://www.skodamuseum.dk/pages/id32.asp

Failing that, this is very nice!!
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C350554


Let's not forget one salient point about Skoda/Lada/etc...
Given the political climate they were born into, you (ie; the 'average man on the strasse'), you'd had your name on the Partys waiting list for 10-15 years for a car
You were highly delighted no matter to be allocated one, no matter what it was.

Sadly, the decision was made to import them, essentially as they were, with no real concessions to the UK market (which was starting to wake up to the reliability/standard trim levels of Japanese cars)

Then again, anything that could cope with a Russian winter ought to have been okay over here??

Czechoslovakian company, Tatra even provided some of their cars with a petrol powered heater for the interior!!0, models like the 603 (similar to the diesel Eperspacher heaters you can get today)
 

Cletus Van Damme

Previously known as Cheesney Hawks
Let's not forget one salient point about Skoda/Lada/etc...
Given the political climate they were born into, you (ie; the 'average man on the strasse'), you'd had your name on the Partys waiting list for 10-15 years for a car
You were highly delighted no matter to be allocated one, no matter what it was.

Sadly, the decision was made to import them, essentially as they were, with no real concessions to the UK market (which was starting to wake up to the reliability/standard trim levels of Japanese cars)

Personally I wish that a manufacturer would start making cheap basic medium sized cars that were reliable. I do not care about trim levels and unnessary electronics and gadgets that all add to the price of a car. Sure I want it to be safe but that is about it. Lots of small city are cars available like that, but that seems to be where it ends, and I need something a touch bigger. My Dad has a Peugoet 107 (same as Citroen C1, Toyota Aygo) and it is a cracking little car. It's so basic but it drives superbly and is very economical, if it was a touch bigger it would be superb for me. It seems that most motorists are obsessed with trim levels and equipment. But surely you would of thought in the current climate that a niche market would exist for basic cheaper larger cars. Obviously not!
 
Personally I wish that a manufacturer would start making cheap basic medium sized cars that were reliable. I do not care about trim levels and unnessary electronics and gadgets that all add to the price of a car
I'm with you, but sadly their (silly) 'Market Research' probably tells them that everyone wants gadgets???


As for trim, I felt I was being pampered/in the 'lap of luxury' when I went from my first landie (2A Light-Weight) to a 110Tdi (300 series), as it had carpets & cloth seats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

tyred

Squire
Location
Ireland
Not a huge amount wrong with Fiats imo. They always did basic cars like the 127, Uno and Punto better than anyone else. The rust issues of the past are long gone. I don't see that some of the more modern German cars are anything to write home about on the reliability front either.
 

swee'pea99

Squire
Personally I wish that a manufacturer would start making cheap basic medium sized cars that were reliable. I do not care about trim levels and unnessary electronics and gadgets that all add to the price of a car. Sure I want it to be safe but that is about it. Lots of small city are cars available like that, but that seems to be where it ends, and I need something a touch bigger. My Dad has a Peugoet 107 (same as Citroen C1, Toyota Aygo) and it is a cracking little car. It's so basic but it drives superbly and is very economical, if it was a touch bigger it would be superb for me. It seems that most motorists are obsessed with trim levels and equipment. But surely you would of thought in the current climate that a niche market would exist for basic cheaper larger cars. Obviously not!
I recently saw a Chelsea tractor woman pressing a button to lower the tailgate. I'm sure she was very pleased not to have to use her arm, whereas the only thing it made me think was: more stupid technology that's pushed up the cost, added 3kg to the weight you cart round everywhere, and will no doubt cost £648.40 (plus VAT) to fix when it goes wrong. WHAT'S WRONG WITH USING YOUR ARM? Honestly, you suspect some people will never be happy till they're like one of those pods in that film, where you never actually have to move or do anything - just lie there and everything will come to you thru' a tube.

...and breath....
 

screenman

Squire
I can see the benefits in an electric tailgate and expect to have one on my next car.

Choice, now that is a nice word.
 
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