My son found an injured bird - now what?

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Fnaar

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I have no idea if recently fledged Swifts are fed by their parents after they leave the nest or if they are self sufficient from day one[/QUOTE]
From RSPB website:
"For several days before fledging they spend long periods at the nest entrance looking out. They usually leave the nest in the early morning, and will be independent immediately. Within a few days of leaving the nest they will start their flight to Africa in the company of other fledglings"

I guess this means they can feed themselves too.
 

Fnaar

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Location
Thumberland
Something here about hand-rearing swifts (found/injured, I think) but has some info about food (insects, basically) and getting them flying
http://www.swift-conservation.org/Hand Rearing the Common Swift.pdf
 
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Jimmy Doug

Jimmy Doug

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Something here about hand-rearing swifts (found/injured, I think) but has some info about food (insects, basically) and getting them flying
http://www.swift-conservation.org/Hand Rearing the Common Swift.pdf
Is it possible to double like a post? An amazing document - only just got home, so haven't had time to read it properly. I'll look later.
We phoned the animal sanctuary in Amiens this morning on the advice of the vet. They told us that we should try throwing the bird into the air (against the wind). It nearly flew - but then fell back to the ground. We'll try again tomorrow - if it survives the night, that is. It won't eat anything.
 

Bianchi boy

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North wales
Take the bird to a vet they are legally obligated to accept it, and any decent vet will accept the bird/animal without question. Wife and I were out cycling one day on coastal route and noticed a young black headed gull being virtually pecked to death by four rather large crows, we phoned RSPCA and they said a vet will take the bird, because they are legally obliged to do so, our local vet was happy to do so.
 

SD1

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Take the bird to a vet they are legally obligated to accept it, and any decent vet will accept the bird/animal without question. Wife and I were out cycling one day on coastal route and noticed a young black headed gull being virtually pecked to death by four rather large crows, we phoned RSPCA and they said a vet will take the bird, because they are legally obliged to do so, our local vet was happy to do so.

Do you take the ones your cat has injured to the vet? If it (your cat) came home with a injured mouse would you take it to the vet? Your suggestion is a touch hypocritical. I am thinking from the mouse's point of view!
 

Bianchi boy

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North wales
My cat spends most of her time in the house, if she ventures outside she is usually on her harness and lead, we take great care of our pets
 
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Jimmy Doug

Jimmy Doug

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Do you take the ones your cat has injured to the vet? If it (your cat) came home with a injured mouse would you take it to the vet? Your suggestion is a touch hypocritical. I am thinking from the mouse's point of view!
I'm not sure vets here are legally obliged to take wild animals - after all, shooting birds from the sky is a popular passtime, and animals were only declared legally sentient a few months ago. However, I did take the bird to the vet and he was very helpful.
 

SD1

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My cat spends most of her time in the house, if she ventures outside she is usually on her harness and lead, we take great care of our pets
That was not an answer to my question. It was also (the question) meant humorously.
Nor do you take great care of your pets, at least not the cat. Cats are free spirits, keeping it in the house all day and only letting it out on a lead is cruelty (in my mind) and weird.
The free spirit bit is according to the law. If your dog causes an accident you are responsible, if your cat does your not. Not technically the law but a court ruling.
 
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SD1

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Really? Which bit of legislation is that then?

The OP is also in France - so it's irrelevant what the RSPCA says.... and that's an organisation with something of a rep for making the law up as it goes along.
As in "we have a legal right to enter your house" blatant lies.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Except, under particular circumstances, they do have the right. The pertinent parts of S.17 of PACE apply to them too. They would generally justify it as preventing damage to property, as animals are classed as such.
 

SD1

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RSPCA inspectors do have the legal right to enter premises under Section 19 of the Animal Welfare Act 2006. Where the premises is a dwelling, they require a warrant.
I am aware of that, they were trying before 2006 AND they are stilling trying now to get into peoples houses.
 

Paulus

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Barnet,
Sorry - s.17 of PACE does not apply to RSPCA inspectors. They are not constables - and section 17 applies specifically to constables.


Correct. If a RSPCA inspector wants to gain entry to a property they have to call a police officer who will effect an entry for them. Once the door/window has been opened they can then enter.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
No, they do not 'have' to. The power of entry is theirs.

However, as a practical matter the RSPCA are not MoE trained, where as some police officers are, so generally the dibble will be called because they have the training and equipment to safely gain entry with the minimum of damage, and then corroborate that the RSPCA dude didn't steal the TV while he was in there. Police presence is a matter of convenience and common sense, not lawful need.
 
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