cyberknight
As long as I breathe, I attack.
- Location
- Land of confusion
For those who have moved from zwift you can import your stats ,heck you could even import Strava but I think 75,000 miles is a bit of an ask 😁
MyWhoosh vs Zwift
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Milzy
Guru
That’s nice but the power must be set too high for your actual true zones or you’re too fatigued to be on that current workout. Only ever had it once on suffer fest which was hard enough even when you weren’t been over ambitious.
ColinJ
Puzzle game procrastinator!
- Location
- Todmorden - Yorks/Lancs border
That's good.
I have a feeling that I will end up with a TP subscription, but I will give MyWhoosh and Zwift a good test first.
I had definitely overestimated what I could do on the trainer yesterday!
I usually do about 500 W on one of the very short road ramps that I was trying to simulate so I thought that 15 seconds at 500 W would be okay on the turbo.
What really got to my legs was the abrupt transition from 150 W to 500 W. What I do IRL is to sprint up to 500 W over 100 m or so, reaching full power at the base of the ramp, and then try to hold it all the way up and onto the flat road above. I will replicate that ramp up when I edit the workout.
The next problem for me was putting 2 of those efforts in only 45 seconds apart. I will try increasing the separation by at least a minute to give myself more recovery time.
I'll leave the power levels alone and just start off with workout difficulty set to 80% next time. Once I can get through one of those sessions without failure I will set my target to 85% for the next one. Rinse and repeat: 90%, 95%, 100%, 105%... (?!!).
We have sunny spells here today so I will be hitting the roads rather than the turbo.
PS I decided in the end that I needed a rest so I made do with just a stroll to the shops. I might have a go at the 7.7 km Cragg Vale climb tomorrow and it would be better with fresh legs.
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ColinJ
Puzzle game procrastinator!
- Location
- Todmorden - Yorks/Lancs border
I just noticed something that confused me. It probably won't be of much interest to you though unless, like me, you manually edit MyWhoosh workout files...
I have now created a new 45 minute workout with shorter, slightly easier intervals, and I have equalised the gaps between intervals. I'll try it out in a few days time after more road rides and a couple more zone 2 sessions on the turbo. I should be able to cope with the new workout starting with the reduced difficulty setting.
It is odd that the low power value in the cooldown is higher than the high power value! I thought it would be a ramp down from higher power to lower power. It turns out that it is actually a ramp from the power at the lower (earlier) time to the power at the higher (later) time!
I have now created a new 45 minute workout with shorter, slightly easier intervals, and I have equalised the gaps between intervals. I'll try it out in a few days time after more road rides and a couple more zone 2 sessions on the turbo. I should be able to cope with the new workout starting with the reduced difficulty setting.
Milzy
Guru
You can plus or minus the workout % as you go along. Feature been there for years. That’s why I don’t get folk doing the death spiral when you can knock it down if you’re not feeling it.
ColinJ
Puzzle game procrastinator!
- Location
- Todmorden - Yorks/Lancs border
You obviously haven't tried doing it using an Apple TV remote control...!
It is an absolute pig to use when on the turbo. It is terrible even when not on the turbo but desperate when fighting the trainer.
I will set the % low before starting and not touch it again until I have finished. If all goes well, I will add a few % next time.
I am probably going to start using a game controller or maybe a Bluetooth keyboard instead of the remote.
ColinJ
Puzzle game procrastinator!
- Location
- Todmorden - Yorks/Lancs border
I have just bought one on eBay; It should arrive mid-week.
I'm going to see if I can find someone selling Garmin mounting plates. I'd like to glue one to the back of the controller so I can attach it using a Garmin mount.
cyberknight
As long as I breathe, I attack.
- Location
- Land of confusion
In mywhoosh is there no in "game " sound when riding ? it seems a bit odd after using zwift , having issues with the game over estimating w/ kg so i am having to try different trainers to find one that is close to my actual speed and power .
Brusgaard
Über Guru
- Location
- Skive, Denmark
No sounds except in the Supertri world. I seem to remember sounds back in 2023, when I first tried MW, but they were removed shortly thereafter. Not a biggie as I listen to music anyway. BKOOL also has next to no sound in their 3D world.
ColinJ
Puzzle game procrastinator!
- Location
- Todmorden - Yorks/Lancs border
I got my new game controller working with the Apple TV box but MyWhoosh doesn't really use it very well. Instead of dedicating buttons etc. to different functions it just seems to act as a glorified mouse?
TrainingPeaks have emailed me with a 1 month free trial offer. I am away in Devon at the moment so I am waiting until I get back and will then see if the offer is still available. If it is, I'll sign up for it. TPV uses a game controller in a much more sensible way so I look forward to trying it out on that platform.
I ordered a male Garmin mounting plate which I will stick onto the bottom of the controller and attach that to a spare mount on the turbo bike.
TrainingPeaks have emailed me with a 1 month free trial offer. I am away in Devon at the moment so I am waiting until I get back and will then see if the offer is still available. If it is, I'll sign up for it. TPV uses a game controller in a much more sensible way so I look forward to trying it out on that platform.
I ordered a male Garmin mounting plate which I will stick onto the bottom of the controller and attach that to a spare mount on the turbo bike.
cyberknight
As long as I breathe, I attack.
- Location
- Land of confusion
Having had a play with my whoosh i have come to the conclusion i need a smart trainer to use it to give meaningful results , i find im getting at least a 50 % extra power estimation no matter which set up i use .At least with zwift i could get something close to my real world reading .
Rode last night at an easy pace with pulse rate no higher than 110 bpm and i was getting over 300 watts and 4 w/ kg !
I will have to wait till after x mas to see if i can snag a second hand one .
Rode last night at an easy pace with pulse rate no higher than 110 bpm and i was getting over 300 watts and 4 w/ kg !
I will have to wait till after x mas to see if i can snag a second hand one .
Legs
usually riding on Zwift or up steep hills...
- Location
- Staffordshire
I'm really not sure that you ever were.
N0bodyOfTheGoat
Über Member
- Location
- Hampshire, UK
I ended up using MyWhoosh almost everyday last week, few hiccups on my mobile regarding pairing plus like Zwift it consumes lots of battery, then remembered there is a lower detail pc version that was initially a bit stuttery on our Surface Pro 4 but fine after reducing rendering detail.
Liking the sub 15Km routes I've done so far, all with rolling terrain, missing the racing from Zwift a bit but that's been a mess since ZRS and even more of a mess recently with score decay.
Liking the sub 15Km routes I've done so far, all with rolling terrain, missing the racing from Zwift a bit but that's been a mess since ZRS and even more of a mess recently with score decay.
cyberknight
As long as I breathe, I attack.
- Location
- Land of confusion
indeed but my whoosh is pretty much doubling my power
Alex321
Guru
- Location
- South Wales
Without a smart trainer that includes a power meter, you are only ever getting rough guesstimates from any of the apps.
