Near misses am or pm

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In the morning there are a lot of people who have a deadline
i.e. have to be in work by x o'clock

in the evening there are probably fewer than have an actual time deadline they MUST make
clearly some have to pick kids up and the like

also - as mentioned - some will be on their way to work and checking emails etc
which the shouldn't - but then they should be looking for bikes so.....
 
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ren531

ren531

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Location
Lancaster uk
Morning worse usually. Hence a quiet route. Take more of a road route on the way home as the quiet route gets scallywags on it at 5pm who want to rob your bike (saw aftermath of one, colleague was attacked a while back, and four of them tried to get me in September.
That sounds awful, so you can't use your preferred route home for fear of being robbed, we have a local path that's fine at 5.00 but later on dark evenings I wouldn't go down it .
 

Arjimlad

Tights of Cydonia
Location
South Glos
That is an interesting question. I can think of bad passes in each direction. There are places where I regularly experience close passes and therefore I can ride out in primary a bit more to deter them here and there. I have noticed that in the rain, drivers seem to be more predisposed to dangerous driving, overtaking badly or too close.
 

N0bodyOfTheGoat

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Location
Hampshire, UK
Even though there are far more cars on the road at ~0600 than there was when I started as a postie in 2009, I always took the most direct route heading in, which involved using the A road for a bit. Nothing ever happened, besides on 23/12/2013, when I ploughed into a stationary refuge collection lorry and decided to make a jigsaw of my right hand and around my lower jaw!

Going home at 1400-1500, I'd take the meandering route home on quiet back roads, far more pleasant. Increased distance from 4.5 to 5.5 miles, but so worth it.
 

Binky

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I have to say this is a very rare event for me it's been a good while since anything as bad as this happened and my usual approach is finding a better route, but this is one very short section of main road that's hard to avoid.
Getting a camera would be last resort for me, too many bikes and too infrequent incident's and my alternative route's over the years are far more pleasant riding than the direct route and I'm happy for it to take a bit more time.

Fair enough but if nothing is done then nothing changes and bad drivers will continue to make dangerous passes etc.
 
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ren531

ren531

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Even though there are far more cars on the road at ~0600 than there was when I started as a postie in 2009, I always took the most direct route heading in, which involved using the A road for a bit. Nothing ever happened, besides on 23/12/2013, when I ploughed into a stationary refuge collection lorry and decided to make a jigsaw of my right hand and around my lower jaw!

Going home at 1400-1500, I'd take the meandering route home on quiet back roads, far more pleasant. Increased distance from 4.5 to 5.5 miles, but so worth it.

Yeah a detour is not an inconvenience when we ride these things for the joy of it .
 
Not really near misses but the twice I've been hit commuting (fortunately back in 2013 and with out major damage, that cheap steel fixie was strong) was in the PM. The last time I got hit (also 2013) was not on a commute but a leisure ride to London which was also the PM.
 
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ren531

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Not really near misses but the twice I've been hit commuting (fortunately back in 2013 and with out major damage, that cheap steel fixie was strong) was in the PM. The last time I got hit (also 2013) was not on a commute but a leisure ride to London which was also the PM.
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I did wonder why my incidents were mostly am and thought possibly the driver was still suffering from whatever indulgences they'd participated in the previous night, but who knows. Hope you've had an uneventful time since then .
 

Jenkins

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Location
Felixstowe
When I was working shifts it wasn't a problem as I was commuting out of the busy times and mostly used quieter roads anyhow. When I went part time and NOH, the mornings were the same as I was still commuting out of the busy times, but the afternoons were completely different as it coincided with the end of the school day and you really had to keep your eyes and ears open.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Even though there are far more cars on the road at ~0600 than there was when I started as a postie in 2009, I always took the most direct route heading in, which involved using the A road for a bit. Nothing ever happened, besides on 23/12/2013, when I ploughed into a stationary refuge collection lorry and decided to make a jigsaw of my right hand and around my lower jaw!

Going home at 1400-1500, I'd take the meandering route home on quiet back roads, far more pleasant. Increased distance from 4.5 to 5.5 miles, but so worth it.
Nearly did that one morning, before 6am. The driver decided to cross to the wrong side of the road(my side) at a diagonal crossroad so those at the rear didn't have to walk too far.
I'd seen the vehicle moving off, and wrongly assumed he'd stay on the correct side, or at the least, stop for me. He didn't and I'd to onto the wrong side to avoid him.

Words were had later the same day at the depot. His driving had been caught on the camera in the cab.
 
Morning are the worst for me, also once clocks have gone back I find the level of driving drops with it. You can have all the lights in the world makes no difference and your always in the wrong no matter what. In saying that I went over the bonnet in broad day lights because drivers not looking just try be aware of idiots its takes once moron to make a difference to you life.
 
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ren531

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Morning are the worst for me, also once clocks have gone back I find the level of driving drops with it. You can have all the lights in the world makes no difference and your always in the wrong no matter what. In saying that I went over the bonnet in broad day lights because drivers not looking just try be aware of idiots its takes once moron to make a difference to you life.

Your right one moron is all it takes , my approach is to minimise exposure to the risk as much as possible within reason .
 
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