"Never mind the speeding, it was the cyclists fault!"

[downfader]

Is this really what investigators are trying to put across?

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/8396474.iPod_use_may_have_led_to_cyclist___s_death/

If he had been using the iPod then I would question the validity of the argument that it makes traffic navigation more hazardous. If the guy simply allowed himself to daydream, to switch off then yes, I would say he was partly to blame. Hard but truthful. However I could see no real evidence presented in the article that the rider had actually been using the iPod when he stepped into the path of the lorry... The lorry driver was found to have been doing 56 in a 40mph zone. Would that have meant a reasonable stopping distance had the driver been under the limit.

The road where it happened has been pointed out by people and residents in the area as pretty bad for speeding lorries. There is an industrial complex somewhere along there so the chances of encountering a HGV or skip truck is pretty likely.

Let the floodgates open...

 

[BSRU]

Strange how much speculation seems to count as evidence, the only fact seems top be the lorry way over the speed limit.

 

[wesa]

I don't like wearing earphones when I cycle or run on the road, but I do like listening to music when I am not on the road. I often leave the iPod playing buy take the earphones out and just have them round my neck when I am on the road. Judging by the comments of this investigator then I would be responsible if I were run down by a speeding truck.

What happened to beyond reasonable doubt?

 

[hackbike 666]

Here we go again.(earphones)

 

[downfader]

Here we go again.(earphones)

I know its a damned subject, but I find it unnerving how much is becomes the reason for a collision even when it appears theres no evidence, or as in this case theres evidence that someone else did something pretty bad.

 

[hackbike 666]

1) The bloke was speeding
2) Pedestrians step out all the time we all know that...whether they have a mobile glued to their ear or an mp3 player or not.

3) The speeding thingy...if he had been going slower it would have given the odd second or two extra and in tight situations we all know that,that extra second can make the difference.

4) Should I have punctuated between that and that?

 

[Bigsharn]

Should be "that, the extra second"

And agreed, it's disgusting how much speculation is put into these articles

 

[hackbike 666]

Should be "that, the extra second"

And agreed, it's disgusting how much speculation is put into these articles

Thanks,punctuation,is,not,a,strong,point,of,mine.

 

[400bhp]

We don't know the facts - just a newspaper snippet and the fact that an accident investigator was quoted.

 

[fossyant]

It's mitigation........................

Hence the 'should have had a helmet' etc................. it sucks, but that is how it is.

You get injured in an accident................. helmets/headphones - first questions..........

TBH I've nearly run into an IPed.............. on my bike - off in another world they are.....what's to say this fella wasn't - speeding truck or not.

Ride a bike, you need to 'mitigate your losses'.............. it sucks.............

 

[Crankarm]

It's mitigation........................

Hence the 'should have had a helmet' etc................. it sucks, but that is how it is.

You get injured in an accident................. helmets/headphones - first questions..........

TBH I've nearly run into an IPed.............. on my bike - off in another world they are.....what's to say this fella wasn't - speeding truck or not.

Ride a bike, you need to 'mitigate your losses'.............. it sucks.............

.

 

[Crankarm]

Here we go again.(earphones)

Pardon ....... You'll have to speak up .

 

[Sheffield_Tiger]

Couldnt HEAR the speeding lorry?

Next week...
"Truck hits deaf man crossing road. Investigators say the it's not the driver's fault that there are spaccas wandering around."
Yes, that would be out of order...but what's the difference? Mitigation my arse.

 

[marinyork]

It's generally referred to as victim blaming and the inquest should be ashamed of itself.

 

[PBancroft]

It's the Southern Daily Echo. It's not exactly the sort of newspaper which is known for putting across a balanced perspective.