New bike categories creeping into conversation

Discussion in 'General Cycling Discussions' started by mustang1, 11 Mar 2019.

  1. mustang1

    mustang1 Veteran

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    Many years a go I had a bottom end spesh allez and this hot blonde asked me "is that a superbike?"

    In my mind I thought it can be anything you want it to be (babe) but all my mouth could muster was a "errr yeah, errr I dunno".

    These days I see more websites portraying "cheap bike Vs super bike" and more lately, the new term "hyperbole".

    What are these things? When does a cheap road bike turn into a super bike and then into a hyper bike?

    More weird sheet .
     
  2. Smokin Joe

    Smokin Joe Legendary Member

    When a journalist gets a load of freebies from the manufacturer to tell you that it does.
     
  3. I like Skol

    I like Skol Hold my beer and watch this....

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    When I swing my leg over it.... :whistle:
     
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  4. kapelmuur

    kapelmuur Über Member

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    A bike reviewed in the Observer on Sunday cost £8,700. That’s 14 times more than my B’Twin.

    If it would make me a 14 times better rider it would be more than a super bike, but I don’t know whether there’s a ‘miracle bike’ category.
     
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  5. OP
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    mustang1

    mustang1 Veteran

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    But if you took all the components from the £8k bike and it them onto b-twim frame, would your bike then be "super"? Or if you took the b-twim components and put them onto the expensive frame, would it still be super?

    Bike xompacomp are kind of trying to make their expensive bikes stand out like a supercar. But whereas supercars have compromises compared to a family car (two seats, large footprint, no space, no trunk, rubbish fuel economy, etc), a cheap road bike and an expensive road bike share much the same ethos.
     
  6. Milkfloat

    Milkfloat Veteran

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    I think you got it right in the OP.
     
  7. Dogtrousers

    Dogtrousers Kilometre nibbler

    Actually, not as much weird sheet as you might think.

    I turned to google to find some of these websites of which you speak. The first page of results was all about a GCN video entitled "cheap bike vs super bike". The second page was all about a particularly super brand of bike wash.

    Disappointed I started searching for this new term "hyper bike". All the top hits on this were products from a US company called Hyper Bicycles who seem to sell beach cruisers and BMX bikes.

    I think I may actually have watched that GCN video. IIRC it was a bit of silliness in which two guys tested an expensive top end bike vs a rather knackered old bike. They concluded, unsurprisingly, that while the cheaper one was perfectly OK, the more expensive one was nicer to ride and had better brakes. Nose hit, Sherlock.
     
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  8. Phaeton

    Phaeton Guru

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    But it's all still down to the engine, mine is battered, bumped, knackered & crap, no amount of money is going to make it better
     
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  9. Dogtrousers

    Dogtrousers Kilometre nibbler

    Not all down to the engine. The brakes, for example aren't.

    I have a knackered rubbish bike that I ride sometimes, which matches my engine perfectly. But compared with my best bike (which, while not hyper, or indeed super, is still quite spiffing) there are a number of things about the rubbish bike that I don't much like.
     
    Last edited: 12 Mar 2019
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  10. Edwardoka

    Edwardoka Facetious Remark Generator, Waffler

    Having watched the GCN vids in question, to my mind:
    A super bike is a pro tour level bike, 6.8kg, everything precisely engineered to the absolute maximum tolerances
    A hyperbike is what happens when designers get free rein to spend lots of money on Tron-looking things ridden by rail-thin Hulk Hogan lookalikes

    My 2011 full-carbon bike seemed super at the time although age (both its age and mine) have dulled its joy. Riding it hurts.
    My Triban has never been super. But it is a lot cheaper to maintain. And it doesn't hurt to ride.
     
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  11. Phaeton

    Phaeton Guru

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    How do brakes make you go?
     
  12. Dogtrousers

    Dogtrousers Kilometre nibbler

    Slower (hopefully)
     
  13. Phaeton

    Phaeton Guru

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    But for them to make you go slower you have to be going in the first place, so how do brakes assist that?
     
  14. jowwy

    jowwy The bearded Powerhouse

    For me it used to be about components, frame, wheels, fit.....

    My custom ti was a some of its parts a nearly 5k bike, although the frame was imported to my specifications from china...so for me it was MY ultimate super/hyper bike.

    Until my knee decided it no longer like riding it......

    Now i have a new super/hyper bike that allows me to ride pain free and with a smile and enjoyment. To me thats all that matters
     
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  15. I have tried super bikes, but prefer 531. My very basic Miyata 90 has more weight, yes, but also more durability, and I can fix it myself. I might also add thatI've never had to change batteries on it, (because I just got it yesterday) and my other bikes, with the exception of the Trek FX, are all doing well and good after more than 30 years in most cases. Superbikes are for super athletes, old steely heavy bikes are for old, steely heavy riders. Job gets done.
     
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