I have also posted this on the "other" forum to gauge the response Any advice or guidance appreciated, particularly from owners of said machines, to narrow down my options please... Currently riding a Specialized Tricross. I have decided to go for a "proper" road bike in the next couple of months. I have decided I would like a full carbon frame - for no other reason than I want a full carbon frame. I also want/need a triple chainset. Other than that, the criteria I am using is that I want a bike that is comfortable for longer rides and sportives in the future. I will never race, so an "ars@ in the air" super stiff race bike is not needed. The most I will ever do is my club time trials. I have only been cycling for about a year and am still trying to improve fitness and performance and also lose weight. My budget is around £1,300. The bikes I am initially looking at are: Specialized Roubaix Elite Giant SCR C4 Trek Madone 4.5 Lemond Versailles Orbea Onix Bira Cannondale Synapse Carbon 105 Bianchi C2C 928 All fall within budget and are similarly equipped. Other outside possibilities are: Willier Mortirolo Litespeed Ardennes (which I have been offered at £1500 with 105 groupset). I would like to narrow it down to 2, or maybe 3, and then go and test ride. Opinions or advice please?? Thanks, Gary.