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New Forums Part II

Discussion in 'CycleChat Cafe' started by Phaeton, 23 Nov 2017.

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  1. Phaeton

    Phaeton Veteran

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    @Shaun - https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/cc-politics-sub-forum.227077/
    I personally feel this is the issue, any attempt at discussion is closed down IMMEDIATELY, any slight transgression is closed down IMMEDIATELY, any mention of over Moderation is closed down IMMEDIATELY or posts DELETED.

    I'm sure it's a 1st world comparison but it's like the forum has been taken over by a communist regime. I don't have an issue with your decision, but the @Mods appear to have gone into a overdrive frenzy.
     
  2. Shaun

    Shaun Founder Staff Member

    I'm happy to receive feedback if people want to send it, but it doesn't help if members use other people's threads to try and make a point about being unhappy with the change. If you want to tell me what you think, send me a PM or use the site contact form.

    For the time being I don't want a return to the previous political debate sub-forum we had because the cost of managing it was too high.

    With a break and some time to reflect and look at other options I may reintroduce the discussion of news and current affairs, but I'd ask anyone who isn't happy to not spoil CC for other members in the meantime.

    Thanks,
    Shaun
     
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  3. ransos

    ransos Usual suspect

    I suspect I have a very different view to you on what constitutes spoiling the forum, and I know I'm not alone.
     
  4. odav

    odav (';')

    Status updates that sound like posters are under threat of political imprisonment.
    Threads about cycling with constant sarcastic digs about a change, not related to cycling.
    That spoils it a bit.
     
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  5. Mister Paul

    Mister Paul Legendary Member

    What's confusing me is that there's a ban on talking about anything that's not light-hearted enough to live in cafe. That's everything, but it's been sold as a ban on politics.

    The problem wasn't with discussing party politics. It was when the unsavoury views appeared. That's what needs to disappear from CC. The unsavoury views then led to (which all of us who replied are responsible for) bickering, insults and more undesirable content.

    I think that the baby has been shot into deep space with the bath water. Chat, learning, discussion, challenge is what grew CC and kept it alive. Look at all the other cycling forums that don't have this and they're occasional-visit sites. It's the community that we created and gave into which brought the success that the forum has become.

    The decision that has been made will result in a forum like the CTC one. It will be quiet and occasional. If that's what you want then that's fine. A pub will die if people can't socialise without censorship of issues that don't need to be censored.

    It's the unsavoury element that needed to be dealt with, that's all. Pandering to the shouty prejudiced posters for fear of whatever they might accuse you of has led to this problem, not the allowing of discussion of subjects that we all manage to talk about at home, at work, at the gym, in the pub....
     
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  6. Mister Paul

    Mister Paul Legendary Member

    We've lost Mickle through this. One of the most experienced, knowledgeable, helpful assets this forum ever had. That in itself speaks volumes.
     
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  7. Drago

    Drago Guru

    Except that Mickle has been back and posted.
     
  8. Smeggers II

    Smeggers II Legendary Member

    link?
     
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  9. Drago

    Drago Guru

    Checka out a da profile. His most recent ramblings have been post leaving.
     
  10. ransos

    ransos Usual suspect

    I suspect we're descending towards yet another thread lock, but for the record:

    Prior to July 2007, this forum consisted of three people and a tumbleweed. The influx from Bikeradar/ C+ was a marriage of convenience or a happy accident, depending on your point of view, but the point is that a community arrived, wholesale, with certain needs and expectations. The recent change has taken away the fundamental reason why a community existed here in the first place, so you can't then reasonably expect people to passively accept it.

    This forum lives and dies by its content. As Mr Paul says, it has been turned into something we can get in many other places.
     
  11. screenman

    screenman Legendary Member

    Shows my total ignorance, I have not noticed any change.
     
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  12. Shaun

    Shaun Founder Staff Member

    Reports and accusations came in from all sides, each with similar disapproval of the others and their opinions, and to such a degree it overtook the running of CC and caused many relations to sour. It was not healthy for the membership, moderators, or me.

    I realise it takes something away from CC for some members and am not averse to looking at other options at some point in the future, but for the time being we have a great cycling forum and community that is here for everyone who wants to use it.

    All I'd ask is that people who are unhappy with my decision don't spoil CC for others because of it.

    Thanks,
    Shaun
     
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  13. odav

    odav (';')

    Once registered on politics (or other new sections) it is a button press away from entering that forum. The same as going into it when it was listed here. Is that difficult?
     
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  14. TinyMyNewt

    TinyMyNewt An execrable pun

    Location:
    South coast, UK
    Not seeing that, and who cares? He can check in and see that people are wishing him well; he is still a forum member after all.
     
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  15. Smeggers II

    Smeggers II Legendary Member

    Sure it wasnt a dream?
     
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