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Riverman

Guru
Id say that your estimate is statistically invalid. Presumably such videos are mainly shared because they feature idiots. Anecdotally, most cyclists I encounter in the wild respect the rules, but the idiots who don't make a stronger impression.

I hate to say it but the situation in London is out of control and I just fear the worst tbh, in that we will get some horrible draconian legislation because of it..

All it takes is a few serious injuries of deaths of people using the crossings.

It's sad as the growth in cycling in London, especially since the pandemic, has been something to behold.
 

Shut Up Legs

Down Under Member
I hate to say it but the situation in London is out of control and I just fear the worst tbh, in that we will get some horrible draconian legislation because of it..

All it takes is a few serious injuries of deaths of people using the crossings.

It's sad as the growth in cycling in London, especially since the pandemic, has been something to behold.

Speaking of draconian: the state of Queensland here in Australia has made this response to e-bike problems: https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/rules/wheeled-devices/electric-bicycle-rules#who-can-ride

This will only further marginalise cycling in an already cyclist-intolerant country.
 
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Happy_Days

Well-Known Member
I hate to say it but the situation in London is out of control and I just fear the worst tbh, in that we will get some horrible draconian legislation because of it..

All it takes is a few serious injuries of deaths of people using the crossings.

It's sad as the growth in cycling in London, especially since the pandemic, has been something to behold.
Precisely.
 

Paulus

Started young, and still going.
Location
Barnet,
I'm cycling 9km across the centre tonight. Wish me luck! If I don't put any pedestrians in A&E, I expect to be crippled by some time-short fixie hipster :-(

It's not so much the hipsters on fixies you have to worry about, it's the people on Lime and Santander hire bikes.
 

farfromtheland

Regular AND Goofy
Location
London
I'd like to see more 'good' cyclists admonishing those who undertake bypassing on the inside. Robert Elms (on Radio London) has spoken out on this. The knobhead who did it to me on the New Cross Road was rudely unrepentant. It's a potential killer.
 
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farfromtheland

Regular AND Goofy
Location
London
Like we do with other car drivers?

Er, no. Both he and I were cycling. I don't (didn't - my legs fail now) hug the kerb.
When driving it's something completely different.

But on the motor angle I once had a bus driver pull out from hazard-lights stopped straight into my way as I was overtaking. I could be a fairly speedy rider so I caught up and blocked the bus to give the driver the benefit of my opinion. Nearly got beaten up by a pedestrian passer by. It's a mad world.
 
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Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
I'd like to see more 'good' cyclists admonishing those who undertake bypassing on the inside. Robert Elms (on Radio London) has spoken out on this. The knobhead who did it to me on the New Cross Road was rudely unrepentant. It's a potential killer.

If you want that, then first you should be talking to the people who write and publish the Highway Code.

You can't really admonish people for following that.
 

farfromtheland

Regular AND Goofy
Location
London
If you want that, then first you should be talking to the people who write and publish the Highway Code.

You can't really admonish people for following that.

I don't think the Highway Code advocates passing on the inside, unless passing stationary vehicles?
Apologies if it wasn't clear enough from my post that I was referring to a cyclist who pushed my bike's line out into moving traffic. (edited now for clarity)
 

Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
I don't think the Highway Code advocates passing on the inside, unless passing stationary vehicles?
Apologies if it wasn't clear enough from my post that I was referring to a cyclist who pushed my bike's line out into moving traffic. (edited now for clarity)

What it actally says is:
Cyclists may pass slower moving or stationary traffic on their right or left and should proceed with caution as the driver may not be able to see you. Be careful about doing so, particularly on the approach to junctions, and especially when deciding whether it is safe to pass lorries or other large vehicles.

It doesn't actually say that the slower moving or stationary traffic should only be motor vehicles, though the word "diver" does tend to imply it.

I didnt realise from your post as it was originally that it was one cyclist overtaking another (you) on the inside. And they certainly shouldn't be doing it if it forces you to take a different line.
 

brommieinkorea

Über Member
Location
'Merica darnit
In my experience, granted from the 1990's when I lived and worked there, very few drivers exceed the speed limit on the Freeway. I managed to let myself get caught once on I90 - 5mph over the limit cost me $100 on the spot, payment taken via credit card by the patrolman in the breakdown lane.

Aside from being a modern day highwayman he was very pleasant and chatted quite freely once he realised I was a Brit. Not as friendly as the CMP patrolman who let me off with a stern warning ^_^

East coast or Chicago maybe, because traffic is so gridlocked. Everywhere else the cars are doing 85-90 mph and the trucks are being driven against the governor. No training or testing requirement, no requirement that car drivers be responsible adults...
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Photo Winner
Location
Inside my skull
I hate to say it but the situation in London is out of control

Well I rode round London today, and went past quite a few of those floating bus stops in the super highways. It was chill, everyone in control, and nothing like the video.

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