No wonder the police never catch anyone...

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Vikeonabike

CC Neighbourhood Police Constable
I've always wanted to pubilicise the number drivers I catch and ticket for various offences.
Maybe I can have some little vinyl stickers made up depicting "kills" as in WW2 aircraft then stick them to my bike or panniers.

I use a helmet cam, however it only gets switched on arrival at jobs. Battery life and the amount of storage capcity I have means that I can't keep it on all shift.
However I may try targetting traffic whilst on patrol during rush hour, school kicking out time etc.
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
thomas said:
I think in my case I made it obvious that I didn't expect them to try and keep up (they were going a different way anyway) - it was just a bit of fun :biggrin:.


No I was talking to Will, who was going on about clipless pedals...
 

downfader

extimus uero philosophus
Location
'ampsheeeer
Vikeonabike said:
I've always wanted to pubilicise the number drivers I catch and ticket for various offences.
Maybe I can have some little vinyl stickers made up depicting "kills" as in WW2 aircraft then stick them to my bike or panniers.

I use a helmet cam, however it only gets switched on arrival at jobs. Battery life and the amount of storage capcity I have means that I can't keep it on all shift.
However I may try targetting traffic whilst on patrol during rush hour, school kicking out time etc.

I looked into some of the camera/recorder packages you guys were using (or seemed to be from what little info I could find) and the battery time is supposed to be around the 2.5hour mark with an average of 4-6 hours recharging.

I can see why you'd need to switch it off:sad:
 

atbman

Veteran
Not sure what use "undercover" police cyclists would be, given the lack of awareness of some drivers.

Was out training a bunch of PCSOs with their sergeant. Proceeding (as they say) up narrow estate road; singled out to go past parked Transit; some numpty in a 4WD decides to overtake and squeeze past 8(!) riders with Police on their bright yellow jackets; then finds himself being pulled over by sergeant and lectured on his driving; he made excuse that there was plenty of room; sergeant asked him if he wanted to discuss it down the station; decided he had been unwise; 100 yards up road, turned into his drivesergeant remarked that he knew the address and that it was a very big, shiny, very new, very expensive, 4WD for a bloke on the dole and that it wouldn't be a bad idea to pass on the info to the local CID.
 

Vikeonabike

CC Neighbourhood Police Constable
atbman said:
Not sure what use "undercover" police cyclists would be, given the lack of awareness of some drivers.

Was out training a bunch of PCSOs with their sergeant. Proceeding (as they say) up narrow estate road; singled out to go past parked Transit; some numpty in a 4WD decides to overtake and squeeze past 8(!) riders with Police on their bright yellow jackets; then finds himself being pulled over by sergeant and lectured on his driving; he made excuse that there was plenty of room; sergeant asked him if he wanted to discuss it down the station; decided he had been unwise; 100 yards up road, turned into his drivesergeant remarked that he knew the address and that it was a very big, shiny, very new, very expensive, 4WD for a bloke on the dole and that it wouldn't be a bad idea to pass on the info to the local CID.

You're not a bikeability instructor in Essex are you? Sounds a very familiar story to one told to me by one of my PCSO's?
Yes, Even wearing a big Yellow jacket with POLICE on the back is not always going to get your the protection it should!
 

goo_mason

Champion barbed-wire hurdler
Location
Leith, Edinburgh
Vikeonabike said:
You're not a bikeability instructor in Essex are you? Sounds a very familiar story to one told to me by one of my PCSO's?
Yes, Even wearing a big Yellow jacket with POLICE on the back is not always going to get your the protection it should!

No, but you're able to do something about the transgressor ! ;)
 
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thomas

thomas

the tank engine
Location
Woking/Norwich
Could I put "police" on the back of my yellow jacket...add some blue tape :biggrin:? I could claim it's just a brand name (I do have a Police watch ;)).
 

Vikeonabike

CC Neighbourhood Police Constable
thomas said:
Could I put "police" on the back of my yellow jacket...add some blue tape :smile:? I could claim it's just a brand name (I do have a Police watch ;)).


Now this is down to your Mens Rea...are you for instance deliberately intending to make yourself look like a police officer in order to fool drivers into giving you more room for the sake of your safety, then NO...Thats Impersonating a police officer. If on the other hand, you are advertising your love for a famous pop band from the last century then, you could probably get away with it for the last week of every month when "traffic" have got thier quota of points and really can't be bothered to stop you!

However I wouldn't take a chance on it if I were you!
 

Will1985

Über Member
Location
South Norfolk
Use POLITE - there are threads on here and BR about hi-viz vests with that on the back. Arch has one I believe.
 

swee'pea99

Squire
Vikeonabike said:
make yourself look like a police officer in order to fool drivers into giving you more room for the sake of your safety

I've lived in a fair few places where it could more accurately be called 'asking for it'...
 
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thomas

thomas

the tank engine
Location
Woking/Norwich
Vikeonabike said:
Now this is down to your Mens Rea...are you for instance deliberately intending to make yourself look like a police officer in order to fool drivers into giving you more room for the sake of your safety, then NO...Thats Impersonating a police officer. If on the other hand, you are advertising your love for a famous pop band from the last century then, you could probably get away with it for the last week of every month when "traffic" have got thier quota of points and really can't be bothered to stop you!

However I wouldn't take a chance on it if I were you!


Surely there no laws regarding what I can and cannot wear - the UK isn't bluewater shopping centre :evil:

I don't actually intend on doing this...maybe I should just put some blue bits on me and have a pair of handcuffs/walkey talky on my back.
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
Will1985 said:
Use POLITE - there are threads on here and BR about hi-viz vests with that on the back. Arch has one I believe.

yeah, me and maz both have one, organised by padbeat back in the C+ days. It's hard to say if it works - because I can't compare the same drivers day to day, but I think it does, sometimes.
 

Vikeonabike

CC Neighbourhood Police Constable
thomas said:
Surely there no laws regarding what I can and cannot wear - the UK isn't bluewater shopping centre xx(

I don't actually intend on doing this...maybe I should just put some blue bits on me and have a pair of handcuffs/walkey talky on my back.


Thomas there are:
(1) Any person who with intent to deceive impersonates a member of a police force or special constable, or makes any statement or does any act calculated falsely to suggest that he is such a member or constable, shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale, or to both.
(2) Any person who, not being a constable, wears any article of police uniform in circumstances where it gives him an appearance so nearly resembling that of a member of a police force as to be calculated to deceive shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
(3) Any person who, not being a member of a police force or special constable, has in his possession any article of police uniform shall, unless he proves that he obtained possession of that article lawfully and has possession of it for a lawful purpose, be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 1 on the standard scale.
(4) In this section—
(a)
“article of police uniform” means any article of uniform or any distinctive badge or mark or document of identification usually issued to members of police forces or special constables, or anything having the appearance of such an article, badge, mark or document,
 

Vikeonabike

CC Neighbourhood Police Constable
Thomas...I didn't think you were going too, not even for a second, but you did ask if there were laws about what you can and can't wear. Even if you did poke your tongue out when asking.
However, believe it or not somebody out there won't know!
 
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