Norwich Police - Telling cyclists off...for being on a cycle path!

[Lizban]

Seems a bit off sticking cycling on the path/without lights in with assault and theft, I know it's illegal but it feels like two very different levels of lawbreaking!

I was always under the impression that kerb was a stone and curb was restraint. Every day is a school day.

'safer neighbourhoods' is about tackling crime and anti social behaviour - I think the (poor) cycling part fits into the later part.

 

[Crankarm]

Crank-it's not entirely the student population that this effects. Besides that just sounds like a easy generalisation to make and it wouldn't necessarily be true. Cyclists who use the shared path are most likely to be using that as it's considered a facility and may possibly not be as confident on the roads. If the police are stopping people for using it then what's the point in having it there in the first place?

Thank you for your informed contribution.

You're welcome. I would urge you both to take a trip to Cambridge, preferably with your bikes, to observe and experience the many kamikaze student cyclists .

 

[ttcycle]

No thanks I've got things to do rather than indulge you- so what has this got to do with Norwich and the OP?

 

[Crankarm]

No thanks I've got things to do rather than indulge you- so what has this got to do with Norwich and the OP?

I was rather hoping to be indulged .

Stoodents tt. They seem to be a common factor.

 

[BentMikey]

Or is the OP not on about police wrongly castigating cyclists for using a shared path? Is it me, or did Crankarm miss that point?

 

[ttcycle]

Tough!

Read my post Crank- this won't just affect students but cyclists in general.

Not every student is an incapable cyclist either.

 

[Cubist]

Thank you! I think the above would cover a good 90% of Police officers below the rank of Sgt...After that it's all about empire building and promotion!

No rank-conscious stereotyping for you then Vike?

 

[ttcycle]

Or is the OP not on about police wrongly castigating cyclists for using a shared path? Is it me, or did Crankarm miss that point?

+1

 

[Crankarm]

+1

Do I detect maybe a little .............. hostility this morning tt ?

Have a cup of tea and a custard cream on me tt. It's nearly elevensees .

[As for BM he's BM .]

 

[ttcycle]

No it's not hostility crank, it's responding to your unfair generalisations when Thomas is trying to do something constructive (which is a lot more than can be said for the armchair generation on here that like to spout and do nothing at all) and I don't think he fits the bill of being an incompetent cyclist like your 'all' students generalisation.

Besides I think BM has a point, the OP was about cycle paths and police stopping all cyclists - some students happened to be stopped also.

I'll have the cup of tea though if you're offering and maybe a sarnie!

 

[Crankarm]

Tough!

Read my post Crank- this won't just affect students but cyclists in general.

Cyclists local to this facility really.

Not every student is an incapable cyclist either.

Nope I gant you that, but a lot are. I was one once - a student not an incapable cyclist .

 

[ttcycle]

what what WHAT? Crank admits to being once an incapable cyclist? ahha

I reckon bad cycling is not limited to students tbh - but lumping people into one category and tarring everyone with the same brush is lazy and sloppy and doesn't actually change things for the better. It just leads to polarization of opinion ie the lycra lout and Daily Mail attitudes to cyclists in general - don't fall into the trap of doing the same thing Crank - it's unhelpful

 

[Crankarm]

No it's not hostility crank, it's responding to your unfair generalisations when Thomas is trying to do something constructive (which is a lot more than can be said for the armchair generation on here that like to spout and do nothing at all) and I don't think he fits the bill of being an incompetent cyclist like your 'all' students generalisation.

Besides I think BM has a point, the OP was about cycle paths and police stopping all cyclists - some students happened to be stopped also.

I'll have the cup of tea though if you're offering and maybe a sarnie!

A sarnie!!!!! It's elevensees, not lunch time . Did you not have porridge for brekkers this morning to keep you going until lunch? Tea and biscuit on their way.

Did I write 'all' students?

Moi sloppy and lazy .......

Can I not be a cyclist and a DM reader ? Are they mutually exclusive?

I suspect what has happened is the route is frequented by many cyclists a large proportion of whom are students racing to lectures at 2 minutes to 10am. Now far from me to cast aspertions on ALL students' cycling capabilities or lack of them, but from observing the many I have seen in the wonderful city of Cambridge, many are dangerous loons. Had this facility that Thomas writes about been used by a few local cyclists, not students, then I doubt very much the police would have even been there. I suspect a member of the public or two, pedestrian or cyclist, have complained to the police or LA which has resulted in the police taking action. IME police are just not bothered with this type of thing. That's my 2ps worth.

 

[ttcycle]

I get hungry...didn't have breakfast, yes, I know, I know...even with breakfast I get hungry early anyway.

You didn't have to write all students Crank, it's not a lesson in pedantry but your implied meaning through use of language still had the same effect of generalised categorisation. it's just one of my pet hates

EDIT: DM reading and cycling are not exclusive but their attitudes to cycling are poor.

Anyway, this is well OT!

 

[ttcycle]

I suspect what has happened is the route is frequented by many cyclists a large proportion of whom are students racing to lectures at 2 minutes to 10am. Now far from me to cast aspertions on ALL students' cycling capabilities or lack of them, but from observing the many I have seen in the wonderful city of Cambridge, many are dangerous loons. Had this facility that Thomas writes about been used by a few local cyclists, not students, then I doubt very much the police would have even been there. I suspect a member of the public or two, pedestrian or cyclist, have complained to the police or LA which has resulted in the police taking action. IME police are just not bothered with this type of thing. That's my 2ps worth.

Possibly but the police just stopping cyclists who are using the shared pathway was what was described by OP. That in itself is a pointless activity especially if the council have recently spent money converting it into a shared path with a toucan light. Antisocial cycling may not be limited to those studying.