Not another one, RIP

[ComedyPilot]

Why I don't like the polioce attitude is that it's effectively blaming the victim - whether or not that's how they intend it, that's what they are doing. And that's unacceptable.

Where is this?

Is it in another article, or a police press release?

 

[A Nutter]

My condulces to his family.

I try to avoid dual carriageways, and there is only one i would actually use and that is John Reid Road up here, which is a 50 limit and to be honest it's not that busy of a road. I've cycled down the A167 into Newcastle once after getting lost, which is a fast road on a thursday afternoon. I enjoyed the experience, and found drivers were aware of me. Not one near miss, good overtakes. If only they could do that in city centre!

 

[wafflycat]

Where is this?

Is it in another article, or a police press release?

"THE CYCLIST who died in hospital yesterday following an accident on the East Fife regional road had been warned by the police to stay off the dual carriageway."

“He had been stopped by the police a good couple of times and told he shouldn’t be on the road.”

That's effectively saying that if there's a problem, it's his own fault, no matter what the true cause is: and that's unacceptable.

 

[ComedyPilot]

"THE CYCLIST who died in hospital yesterday following an accident on the East Fife regional road had been warned by the police to stay off the dual carriageway."

“He had been stopped by the police a good couple of times and told he shouldn’t be on the road.”

That's effectively saying that if there's a problem, it's his own fault, no matter what the true cause is: and that's unacceptable.

But WHO said it?

You stated it was the Police.

As I have already pointed out a few times, and now SO HAVE YOU, it is the (f**king) press that wrote it.

And the effectively word sums it up perfectly, you have formed the opinion the police have an attitude and that they say it was the cyclist's own fault, all because of a POORLY WRITTEN article by the (f**king) press.

Heaven knows how we'll recruit people to ride bikes if they believe the crap fed to us by the (f**king) press.

 

[ComedyPilot]

P.S. I don't like the (f**king) press.

 

[downfader]

OK guys, lets not see an argument over this. Perhaps we could turn this into something positive?

There is a comment option at the bottom of the page, perhaps a small campaign to increase cycle and pedestrian options down the side of the road?

 

[wafflycat]

ok, so the reported police attitude. If the report is correct, then that reported attitude is wrong. Trouble is, I've seen that sort of attitude before from police. A mate of my son was cycling to see his parents - the route involved being on a dual carriageway for a while. Several times he was stopped by police and told to get off the road as it was 'dangerous'. He was cycling legitimately and correctly. That's the same sort of stupid and wrong attitude that has seen women told that it they wear a short dress they're asking to be assaulted. And it's plain wrong.

 

[ComedyPilot]

OK guys, lets not see an argument over this. Perhaps we could turn this into something positive?

There is a comment option at the bottom of the page, perhaps a small campaign to increase cycle and pedestrian options down the side of the road?

Granted. There are issues and debates here that need addressing elsewhere.

 

[downfader]

Granted. There are issues and debates here that need addressing elsewhere.

Well I have sent my email of suggestions and condolence to the editor. Has anyone else more local and in knowledge of the area done so? Google earth doesnt show enough detail to see what fascilities are there.

 

[col]

"THE CYCLIST who died in hospital yesterday following an accident on the East Fife regional road had been warned by the police to stay off the dual carriageway."

“He had been stopped by the police a good couple of times and told he shouldn’t be on the road.”

That's effectively saying that if there's a problem, it's his own fault, no matter what the true cause is: and that's unacceptable.

Even though i have had my own experience of some police men and women telling lies in an incident,iv never known any to say publicly that they have told someone a couple of times not to do something so its their fault it happened,they are too aware of this sort of reaction in the public media,and you have shown this only too well by reacting to something the press has said,They only speak in facts,and would not insinuate who is at fault,but what happened only.

 

[col]

ok, so the reported police attitude. If the report is correct, then that reported attitude is wrong. Trouble is, I've seen that sort of attitude before from police. A mate of my son was cycling to see his parents - the route involved being on a dual carriageway for a while. Several times he was stopped by police and told to get off the road as it was 'dangerous'. He was cycling legitimately and correctly. That's the same sort of stupid and wrong attitude that has seen women told that it they wear a short dress they're asking to be assaulted. And it's plain wrong.

Perhaps the policeman was trying to help the cyclist be safe?Now if something had happened and the police had been watching,i suppose it might have been,why didnt they say something? tsk,no pleasing some people.And which police force said this about skirts?

 

[Downward]

Do the police warn Scooter riders also not to use that road ?
Some Scooters can do 30mph max and are ridden by 16 year olds.

 

[Tetedelacourse]

I can see both sides on this one. There's no way I would cycle that road. It's a motorway in all but name. And I took the police viewpoint to be advising on what they thought was safe, not a comment on the rights of the cyclist. I can see where Waffly's coming from though.

 

[4F]

ok, so the reported police attitude. If the report is correct, then that reported attitude is wrong. Trouble is, I've seen that sort of attitude before from police. A mate of my son was cycling to see his parents - the route involved being on a dual carriageway for a while. Several times he was stopped by police and told to get off the road as it was 'dangerous'. He was cycling legitimately and correctly. That's the same sort of stupid and wrong attitude that has seen women told that it they wear a short dress they're asking to be assaulted. And it's plain wrong.

I think it really depends on the dual carriageway. For example to cycle on the A14 this way in my opinion whilst perfectly legal, should lead you to being sectioned for your own health as it is plainly insane.

 

[Tetedelacourse]

Picture a two lane motorway and you picture this road.