Oddly aggressive

[crazyjoe101]

I don't see many RLJs but it only ever winds me up when there's traffic in their path or pedestrians around, I can understand why people do it when they see 'no reason to stop' such as there being an empty road and no one crossing. I still don't like it because it's a bad habit and earns cyclists a bad name but it only really gets to me when I see them doing it light after light or when there's people crossing and cars about.

 

[steveindenmark]

The questions has to be asked "what has it got to do with you how other people ride?" If you want to be a policeman then put on a pointy hat and join up.

It sometimes seems that headcam wearers use them to patrol the streets to catch riders like this.

Concentrating on your own riding is more important.

Steve

 

[Kookas]

The questions has to be asked "what has it got to do with you how other people ride?" If you want to be a policeman then put on a pointy hat and join up.

It sometimes seems that headcam wearers use them to patrol the streets to catch riders like this.

Concentrating on your own riding is more important.

Steve

So only the police are allowed to criticise others? That sort of 'walk-on-by', mind-your-own attitude is destructive.

 

[crazyjoe101]

"what has it got to do with you how other people ride?"

Every time a cyclist jumps a red light in plain view of motorists and pedestrians, there's a chance that it's going to affect people's views towards cyclist in general. RLJing doesn't help pedestrians, cyclists and motorists get along nicely with each other.

 

[CopperBrompton]

If you want to be a policeman then put on a pointy hat and join up.

I think in general the police prefer that you do it the other way around.

 

[steveindenmark]

Joe, i am a bike rider, a motorbike rider, a lorry driver and car driver.

When I see someone doing stupid I think they are an idiot. I do not assume that everyone else is an idiot because that is obviously not the case. I think this is probably the case with most Road users.

Everyone is allowed to critisize, but they are also setting themselves up for a smack in the mouth.

Is their riding so perfect that they have a right to instruct other people. I doubt it.

Steve

 

[crazyjoe101]

Every time a cyclist jumps a red light in plain view of motorists and pedestrians, there's a chance that it's going to affect people's views towards cyclist in general...

I know what you're saying, when I meet an idiot driver I don't put their actions on the majority of good or adequate drivers. I'm just saying that I've been unfortunate enough to meet a couple of people who are convinced that cyclists in general jump red lights because they've seen some do it, one person actually didn't believe me when I told them that I didn't... Besides that it's dangerous for them, pedestriand and other road users in some circumstances. To this day I've not verbally criticised another rider, despite coming close; I try to put my safety first.

 

[Cyclopathic]

Said to me once when I shouted at a cyclist who was just about to undertake a tipper truck on a roundabout.

To which one says "No I'm not but I've got her phone number" *winks*

 

[dodd82]

Threads like this remind me of the One Foot in the Grave episode, where Victor has been killed.

Margaret says, rather angrily... 'that's the problem these days - no one does anything about anything'.

As someone that has tried to fight for what I believe to be the correct things to happen in a range of circumstances, that has always stuck with me.

Don't be ashamed to care, and don't be ashamed about acting upon that feeling of caring. The world would be a better place if more people cared.

But perhaps this isn't so relevant for RLJers. Or perhaps it is. Just wanted to offer my thoughts

 

[Davidsw8]

The questions has to be asked "what has it got to do with you how other people ride?" If you want to be a policeman then put on a pointy hat and join up.

It sometimes seems that headcam wearers use them to patrol the streets to catch riders like this.

Concentrating on your own riding is more important.

Steve

Hi Steve

A few answers to that:

a) RLJ is an offence.

b) Social responsibility - some people are so stupid and selfish, they need reminding when they do something wrong.

c) It reinforces the idea that ALL cyclists think they're above the law.

d) It's potentially dangerous for them and other road users and pedestrians.

e) I'm a sticky-beak!

I can honestly say that I ride completely within the law, I also don't use my phone or listen to music while cycling. It's really not difficult to comply with the law and based on experience RLJ'ing doesn't get you anywhere any quicker than those people who wait anyway.

For the record, I wear a headcam in case I'm ever in a collision and in fact, I was knocked off my bike last December and the without the footage, there would have been no case to pursue. Most of the time, I forget I've got the camera until something happens...

 

[Boris Bajic]

Well... I'd hardly call it a 'confrontation', I muttered something and some oaf over-reacted.

As I mentioned before, it's kind of a reflex in me to say something when I see someone doing something wrong, maybe something I need to suppress I dunno...

I do not draw a direct comparison... and to do so would be invalid. I only point out (and exaggerate for effect) that there is a teensy-weensy similarity between our own Teen-Dredd (the Judge Judy and Executioner of Rhyl) and this clip.

Why speak to the guy? What will it avail either of you? Yes, he was a confrontational shoutbasket, but what was the benefit even if he was J Christ Esq of Nazareth?

And I'll whisper the next bit... that is just the sort of junction I'd hop on a red, particularly if dropping onto the A23 south and down to Cla'am Common - if that's where I think it is.

Sorry for admitting that I might hop that red myself and even sorrier for drawing the comparison which is deeply unfair and probably also wrong.

 

[steveindenmark]

David,

The only thing in your comments that made any sense is that you are a sticky beak..

It does not reinforce the idea that all cyclists are above the law. That is such a weak argument. It does reinforce the fact that the particular cyclists involved is aware thar Rlj is wrong and does not Care.

Selfish and stupid people do not Care who they punch and before long some sticky beak with a Web cam and the ability not to keep their mouth shut will get punched, stabbed or worse.

It makes me wonder what sort of riders Web cam wearers are if they buy one just in case they are in a collision. I am 55 and have not been in a collision yet. Personally, I dont think I will invest in one.

Steve

 

[Kookas]

It makes me wonder what sort of riders Web cam wearers are if they buy one just in case they are in a collision. I am 55 and have not been in a collision yet. Personally, I dont think I will invest in one.

Steve

Good for you - are you discrediting every rider who's ever been in an accident?

 

[Arfcollins]

David,

The only thing in your comments that made any sense is that you are a sticky beak..

It does not reinforce the idea that all cyclists are above the law. That is such a weak argument. It does reinforce the fact that the particular cyclists involved is aware thar Rlj is wrong and does not Care.

Selfish and stupid people do not Care who they punch and before long some sticky beak with a Web cam and the ability not to keep their mouth shut will get punched, stabbed or worse.

Steve

As someone else mentioned, the RLJer, or any other miscreant on the road, may change their habit if 10 cyclists were shouting at him. We need more people pointing out antisocial behaviour, but you suggest we just let them get on with it. That's why they do it! We've become a society of wimps, we don't complain enough, and as a result we all suffer at the hand sof the louts.

And you just carry on shouting at RLJer's David, you might get someone else to join in.

 

[Davidsw8]

I do not draw a direct comparison... and to do so would be invalid. I only point out (and exaggerate for effect) that there is a teensy-weensy similarity between our own Teen-Dredd (the Judge Judy and Executioner of Rhyl) and this clip.

Why speak to the guy? What will it avail either of you? Yes, he was a confrontational shoutbasket, but what was the benefit even if he was J Christ Esq of Nazareth?

And I'll whisper the next bit... that is just the sort of junction I'd hop on a red, particularly if dropping onto the A23 south and down to Cla'am Common - if that's where I think it is.

Sorry for admitting that I might hop that red myself and even sorrier for drawing the comparison which is deeply unfair and probably also wrong.

I don't know if I'm more concerned about your RLJ'ing or your Matthew obsession