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Davidsw8

Davidsw8

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Have you got to the stage where you wished death on a RLJ'er at the moment they go through the light?

No, I haven't and I wouldn't wish physical harm on anyone (well, on most people at least ^_^). But it would be something if they were involved in a minor altercation with a ped or a vehicle, like a near miss and an argument.

Casual law-breakers like that are clearly so stupid and selfish that won't learn until there's a tangible negative effect to their actions.
 

Black Country Ste

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I had a bloke on a bright yellow, full sus MTB squeeze between me then a car/pedestrian barrier to jump a red light last week. It gained him fifty yards and after (very easily) catching up I warned him that keeping that up will see him getting knocked off. The camera didn't pick up the torrent of abuse unleashed. I 'shushed' him and carried on leathering it up the hill.

A couple of seconds after his RLJ a white van jumped the light from the left as mine turned green. Mistime that RLJ and risk getting squashed. Some people indeed don't like being criticised but neither do I want to witness a collision or potentially giving evidence to the coroner... so I will say something.
 
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Davidsw8

Davidsw8

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+1 for it being a pointless confrontation.

Well... I'd hardly call it a 'confrontation', I muttered something and some oaf over-reacted.

As I mentioned before, it's kind of a reflex in me to say something when I see someone doing something wrong, maybe something I need to suppress I dunno...
 

CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
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It ended up in a confrontation. My view is that RLJers are unlikely to see the error of their ways as a result of some random stranger in the street calling them out on it, and it's entirely possible that another oaf might choose to respond with more than swear-words.

I do support your stance when talking about something more serious, but he didn't appear to be hammering through the lights scattering pedestrians in all directions, so in those circumstances I'd settle for a quiet shake of the head at most.
 
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Davidsw8

Davidsw8

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It ended up in a confrontation. My view is that RLJers are unlikely to see the error of their ways as a result of some random stranger in the street calling them out on it, and it's entirely possible that another oaf might choose to respond with more than swear-words.

I do support your stance when talking about something more serious, but he didn't appear to be hammering through the lights scattering pedestrians in all directions, so in those circumstances I'd settle for a quiet shake of the head at most.

I mostly agree, in the grand scheme of things, it's not the crime of the century and there are some nutters out there who can turn violent at nothing. I mean this guy was definitely thinking about coming back, you can almost see his brain ticking over trying to work it out ^_^ I got the feeling he was itching for some kind of confrontation from someone...

However, sometimes when I'm crossing the road outside Kennington Tube and I see 10 cyclists waiting and 2 sailing through the red light, I wonder if the RLJ'ers behaviour would change if those 10 waiting, actually said something - almost shaming them with peer pressure to do the right thing?
 

Twelve Spokes

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Well... I'd hardly call it a 'confrontation', I muttered something and some oaf over-reacted.

As I mentioned before, it's kind of a reflex in me to say something when I see someone doing something wrong, maybe something I need to suppress I dunno...

Did that yesterday with an illegal right turn motorist from Hoe Street into Essex Road Leytonstone.It did not go down very well.
 

Hip Priest

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ISTR reading about a study on BBC News that said the most likely thing to stop drivers on the phone was visible criticism from other people.

I don't normally speak to other road users, but I saw a fella driving along staring at his phone whilst his poor kid hung halfway out of a child seat in the back. It was at a very busy intersection in Newcastle city centre, so I'm hoping my shout of 'PUT YOUR F***ING PHONE DOWN D***HEAD!' had a positive effect.
 
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