Official Close Pass Licencing response

[mr_cellophane]

Magantom - your internet notoriety/fame is creating a backlash:

http://groups.google.com/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/23c62d8104272e40#

I notice that the OP's account has already been banned. Quite fast work from someone there.

 

[Origamist]

I think that user has been banned dozens of times...

 

[magnatom]

Magantom - your internet notoriety/fame is creating a backlash:

http://groups.google.com/group/uk.rec.cycling/browse_thread/thread/23c62d8104272e40#

Now that is sad! Serial complainer! This does annoy me a bit that people make the facts up for themselves without actually trying to find the facts out. For example User76 suggested that I never post any of my mistakes. I do on a good number of occasions (maggot did apologise but it is a good example).

So, let me think, serial complainer. How many complaints have I made since I have started filming. I have contacted the police about one driver, I have contacted two bus companies (both with positive results), I have contacted one company because a driver threatened to assault me, and I have contacted the taxi firm in this incident. So in total 5 complaints. Now to put that into context have a look at the number of videos I have posted.

I can't quite understand the title of the post spindthrift - magnatom antics? Anyone know what that is about.

So obviously this person browses this forum, and yet rather than confront me here with their views they write counter complaints. Very sad, and I am sure that the licencing board will see it as such.

 

[Origamist]

Spinners cross posted your complaint on various fora including uk.rec.cycling. As he has a larger group of internet "fans" than even you, that explains why he was referenced in the title.

URC has been infested with trolls for years...

 

[magnatom]

Spinners cross posted your complaint on various fora including uk.rec.cycling. As he has a larger group of internet "fans" than even you, that explains why he was referenced in the title.

URC has been infested with trolls for years...

Spindrift,

I know you are trying to help, but please don't cross-post my posts. This is what happens and it isn't constructive (assuming you will read this!)

 

[BentMikey]

I'm not sure there's any point in asking him to do that, it'd be like asking Col to stop arguing blindly against everything you post.

 

[magnatom]

I'm not sure there's any point in asking him to do that, it'd be like asking Col to stop arguing blindly against everything you post.

Aye, probably right. So you've also noticed that Col argues blindly against me. That'll be why he's calling you a liar....

 

[col]

I'm not sure there's any point in asking him to do that, it'd be like asking Col to stop arguing blindly against everything you post.

No its not

Aye, probably right. So you've also noticed that Col argues blindly against me. That'll be why he's calling you a liar....B)

Im calling him what he called me,whats up with that?

 

[classic33]

As for finding out where I live. That is quite a jump to make about this taxi driver. Would you be the sort to take revenge this way maggot? The vast majority of people would not. So I suggest that this is very unlikely. If in the unlikely situation that something did occur, I would deal with any consequences as best I could, and without a doubt the police would quickly find out who he was. I will not bury my head in the sand because of the small risk of theoretical reprisals.

Is there a number in the 20's or 70's in any part of the address.

But for him to locate & then come after you would make it pre-meditated, not a spur of the moment thing.

Have you sent a copy of the letters to the local taxi drivers association, local licencing tends to be run more by these than those employed in the actual department.

http://www.192.com/local/GLASGOW/TAXI/GLASGOW_TAXI_ASSOCIATION/X95108488E3804F9B9FC3588F8F132E99 or
http://www.touchglasgow.com/business/list/bid/2665730

 

[Cab]

Usenet isn't what it was. With so many idiots online, many unmoderated groups are now just a place for empty vessels to make as much noise as they like, to act in ways they simply wouldn't be able to on moderated fora. Its made worse by people who just don't get over being banned from civilised sites. This seems like a prime example of that to me.

Magnatom, ignore it, ain't worth the grief.

 

[magnatom]

OK. Here is their final and more 'official' response.

complaint against driver of Private Hire Car licence 2266 ​

I refer to the above and can now make you aware of the conclusions reached as a result of our investigation into the allegations raised. ​

We traced and interviewed the driver of the vehicle detailed in your complaint. The driver recalled the incident and provided his version of events. He stated that, in retrospect, he may have passed too close to you and has asked us to forward his apology to you. ​

Having taken account of all available information we have concluded that the driver did not contravene any of the conditions attached to his Private Hire Driver Licence and in keeping with our role as detailed in our earlier acknowledgement of your complaint, we carried out our investigation in the role of mediator. ​

We took the opportunity to advise the driver that, for future reference and in everyone's interest, he should take greater care in relation to his interaction with fellow road users. ​

It is our view that the driver has learned a valuable lesson as a direct result of your complaint and our subsequent investigation, however, should you wish to pursue the matter, you should progress your concerns through Strathclyde Police. ​

This concludes our part in this unfortunate incident. ​

Yours sincerely​

What are your thoughts, taking into acount the previous mistaken response.

 

[Lurker]

OK. Here is their final and more 'official' response.



What are your thoughts, taking into acount the previous mistaken response.

Interesting.

"...any of the conditions attached to his Private Hire Driver Licence..."

What are the conditions?

Given that they suggest the next step might be an approach to the Police, do they have a set of internal procedures with associated sanctions? Again, one could ask to see these since they should be in the public domain.


".... This concludes our part in this unfortunate incident."

Some might take issue with the use of 'unfortunate' since it (wrongly) implies an 'act of God'....

 

[downfader]

OK. Here is their final and more 'official' response.



What are your thoughts, taking into acount the previous mistaken response.

OK. Heres my view and you may not like it as a fellow camera-cyclist. Given that a serious offence has potentially taken place there are many that would have done one of two things: the majority would have grumbled and then ignored it/moaned online (not necessarily a good thing) and a minority would have gone to the police in the first instance.

I know you wanted to try and be diplomatic but in cases such as these perhaps it is better the let the police deal with it. You're not after anything other than safe roads at the end of the day (gone all jeremy kyle there, sorry 'bout that) and I feel that a policeman would bere a weight far better than a taxi authority.

The police are more impartial, and should they feel a driver has behaved wrecklessly actually have real powers to deal with it. After my own collision with a car last year I do feel that if anything happens to me I will let the police deal with it rather than posting it on youtube in future... (ignoring curiosities I catch on camera or dedicated rides)

 

[Origamist]

That's pretty much what I expected. Some of the people who were saying the driver was doomed or would be sacked were way off the mark.

I'd confirm that the investigation will be kept on file and leave it at that.

 

[col]

I think its pretty much what most would expect, but someone losing their job because of a complaint based on safety is a real possibility, and maybe worth keeping in mind.

Does this answer satisfy you mag, or are you taking it further?