OT Computer Crash
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Rhythm Thief
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Crackle said:
That's all very well, but I still don't know what the difference is.
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the campag/shimano is about right. mac/campag users remain in a state of perpetual smugness with regard to pc/shimano users. it's true to say that the mac was, throughout the '90s, vastly superior to the digital rubbish microsoft was peddling, in the same way that campag was superior to shimano.
the slightly boring truth is that both mac os and windows are decent systems (although the mac is still better, but not by anything like as far as it was), just as shimano and campag both make a range of quality groupsets.
the slightly boring truth is that both mac os and windows are decent systems (although the mac is still better, but not by anything like as far as it was), just as shimano and campag both make a range of quality groupsets.
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domtyler said:
what an idiot i am, i've been using mine for listening to music. doh
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just jim said:
with a lovely new macintosh attached.
laurence
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maybe it's resorted to using morse code. decipher the signal and it'll be telling you where the fault is.
twowheelsgood
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Current Apples ARE PCs with different OS and custom BIOS that talks to the OSX Kernel with the sole purpose of restricting the installation to their own hardware. This can be worked around however. I successfully built a "Hackintosh" (google it) but as I don't particularly regard OS as any better I didn't keep it.
The hardware in all but the topend PowerMacs is very low-end and usually slightly obsolete Intel x86. Design-wise they look pretty but the integrated monitor IMHO is an act of crass stupidity, rather like building a laptop that has all the inherent disadvantages and inflexibility of a notebook without actually being portable.
They are built by Asus (leading makers of mainboards and their own brand notebooks), Quantum (maker of mainly set-top boxes and mobile phones) and Foxxcon (maker of budget mainboards and graphic cards).
Despite the hype, Apple currently have a very high rate of HDD failure, laptop overheating and blue-screen issues with Leopard. There is also a very serious bug that can lead to loss of data when copying data from one partition or hard-drive to another. This was said to be fixed in a patch, but actually isn't. Historically due to design faults, the Apple III was famous for the "drop it 76mm" fix in a service bulletin, more recently the "cube" bombed and has severe cooling problems again due to design faults (a colleague has one he keeps on the desk as a trophy with a rippled plastic case distorted by heat). So I would say given the huge user base, almost infinte combinations of hardware compared the the limited set employed by Apple and ham-fisted DIY atempts by users, PCs are almost miraculously reliable in comparison.
Ultimately it boils down to whether you like the UI. If you are prepared pay the premium and live with a restricted choice of software and hardware then that's up to you. I use Ubuntu and XP myself. As you can see I can post here as well as a Mac owner who payed 3 times are much for the privilege.
An Asus eee pc is next on the list...
The hardware in all but the topend PowerMacs is very low-end and usually slightly obsolete Intel x86. Design-wise they look pretty but the integrated monitor IMHO is an act of crass stupidity, rather like building a laptop that has all the inherent disadvantages and inflexibility of a notebook without actually being portable.
They are built by Asus (leading makers of mainboards and their own brand notebooks), Quantum (maker of mainly set-top boxes and mobile phones) and Foxxcon (maker of budget mainboards and graphic cards).
Despite the hype, Apple currently have a very high rate of HDD failure, laptop overheating and blue-screen issues with Leopard. There is also a very serious bug that can lead to loss of data when copying data from one partition or hard-drive to another. This was said to be fixed in a patch, but actually isn't. Historically due to design faults, the Apple III was famous for the "drop it 76mm" fix in a service bulletin, more recently the "cube" bombed and has severe cooling problems again due to design faults (a colleague has one he keeps on the desk as a trophy with a rippled plastic case distorted by heat). So I would say given the huge user base, almost infinte combinations of hardware compared the the limited set employed by Apple and ham-fisted DIY atempts by users, PCs are almost miraculously reliable in comparison.
Ultimately it boils down to whether you like the UI. If you are prepared pay the premium and live with a restricted choice of software and hardware then that's up to you. I use Ubuntu and XP myself. As you can see I can post here as well as a Mac owner who payed 3 times are much for the privilege.
An Asus eee pc is next on the list...
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- the post-brexit wasteland
twowheelsgood said:
well since 1990 i've only ever had one macintosh, either my own or one i work on at work, go bad on me. that was my beloved g3 powerbook, which one day just died after a month with a dicky power supply interface. it was second hand (so no idea how it was treated), had been with me to australia and back and worked well even when bits started to fall off.
i also have a fully functional macintosh classic (circa 1989) and a 1st gen powerbook which still boots, although the hd has bitten the dust (bought as dead off ebay).
not trying to disprove anything twg has posted, but included for balence.
you might conclude that i'm easier on the hardware than twg though.
