Overcoming fear of lycra

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youngoldbloke

The older I get, the faster I used to be ...
I would guess at least half of the women at my local parkrun usually wear tights. I don't know if they'd count themselves as 'fun runners' though. Men tend to wear more traditional 'running shorts' but there are always a few who wear more figure-hugging garb.

My experience too (which is why I made the earlier post about runners). No ones answered the question though - is tight clothing (that's the real issue isn't it?) a big deal in the running community?
 

screenman

Squire
What is depressing is not that men, too, have body-image problems (though I do find it just a touch depressing the way male body-image problems seem to focus so much on the sex organs, with the virility of a six pack coming up behind), but the way that, when discussion of body image takes place in the public space (here), men, and their penises, assume a dominating role.

I suppose you are right, that bit does seem to stick out a bit, some further than others.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
My experience too (which is why I made the earlier post about runners). No ones answered the question though - is tight clothing (that's the real issue isn't it?) a big deal in the running community?
As I mentioned, not what I see, but I doubt it's as big a deal because runners don't seem to have cafe or lunch stops in their running kit and there aren't as high proportions of transport, utility and touring runners.
 

youngoldbloke

The older I get, the faster I used to be ...
As I mentioned, not what I see, but I doubt it's as big a deal because runners don't seem to have cafe or lunch stops in their running kit and there aren't as high proportions of transport, utility and touring runners.
...... well ....... I've done a lttle googling and it does appear to be a perennial subject of debate in running circles too - should men shorts over tights? - that sort of thing. Always mens reproductive bits that are the issue, apparently. Doesn't bother me, and I'm quite happy to wander around Sainsburys after a ride wearing a club top and shorts or tights if the need arises. Don't think I've ever upset anyone. It's a better look than baggy knee length cargos and team football shirt anyway. Functionally and aesthetically Lycra wins every time.
 

Lee_M

Guru
I wonder what sort of (a) shorts you're all wearing and (b) how big a pack you all must have.

In my cycling shorts the pad comes far enough up the front to cover my package, so I just have a bump, no searingly detailed outline or embarassing play dough. In the same way women have two bumps in their tops. Maybe they shouldnt wear skimpy tops in public if we follow that argument? Or maybe men should spend more on their shorts?
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
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Ive just bought a new jersey and shorts for my rides. They're comfortable and fit well. When im on my bike, I feel fine, no worries at all. Its the short distance I have to walk from my front door to the road about 6 metres in front of my house. This wouldnt be a problem if I lived on a small sideroad, but I live on the largest and busiest street in the area, and so many people stare :eek:. Something so silly I know. :laugh::laugh: Anyone else have this problem?

Sign yourself up as a life model and attend a few classes. After that, being in Lycra in public will never embarrass you again.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
In my cycling shorts the pad comes far enough up the front to cover my package, so I just have a bump, no searingly detailed outline or embarassing play dough. […] Or maybe men should spend more on their shorts?
No correlation between price and pad frontal height, is there? If anything, I think the most expensive shorts I tried had the front seam right across where you don't want it... well, where I didn't want it. Half modest but all pain.
 

double0jedi

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What is depressing is not that men, too, have body-image problems (though I do find it just a touch depressing the way male body-image problems seem to focus so much on the sex organs, with the virility of a six pack coming up behind), but the way that, when discussion of body image takes place in the public space (here), men, and their penises, assume a dominating role.

I think that men are body conscious, but maybe not so sensitive to it as women are portrayed to be. We are conscious of things like belly or spindly legs and arms or no six pack, but i also think that we don't have the same pressure from the media to look a certain shape, where as women are bombarded by it in advertising every day. Advertising sets a (perceived) standard and women seem to be judged if they don't meet that standard.
Men seem to be less inclined to be so conscious, for instance, walk through town when the sun is out and lots of guys are happy to walk around with no top on, and lets face it some of them aren't exactly adonis. So maybe men feel less pressure in the body image dept to live up to.

However there is one area where the rules change, there is a (perceived ) general consensus that if you have a smaller penis you will be judged as inferior in some way. You won't match up to yet another (non existent) standard.
A big willy clearly means you are more powerful, and successful and are able to satisfy a woman from a hundred yards, where as if you don't quite match up, there may be giggles behind hands and knowing smirks. The size of manhood bears little or no relationship to what kind of person you are, you can be a great guy and have a big dick or a great guy and have a little one. I have no doubt that obnoxious people throughout the world are both blessed and cursed in the trouser dept.
The think with lycra the problem is not actually what it shows, more what it doesn't. For men, in the most part the package remains hidden and in normal clothing it is not possible to see what sort of size someone has. Bib shorts, as someone pointed out, do have a pad, and the fit of the shorts tends to squash everything so what you see isn't a definitive or detailed depiction of the penis anyway. But what the lycra does do.. and here's the bit (most) men fear... is reveal to the world that you are not packing something extra large. It gives away the fact you don't have to strap it to your thigh or tuck it into your waistband, it reveals that , in most cases, the wearer is, in fact quite normal for not having dumbos trunk stashed down his shorts. It shows that most men are average in size and the average size is less than we are made to think is "ideal".
Because of the way lycra fits it does make it feel like that area is more exposed than normal, and therefore more prone to being judged, hence why it is more of issue for men than say weight or build. To be frank, being judged by the size of your manhood is pretty much every guys worst fear, that is why it is it is such an issue, and comes up as a subject when guys talk about lycra.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
But what the lycra does do.. and here's the bit (most) men fear... is reveal to the world that you are not packing something extra large. It gives away the fact you don't have to strap it to your thigh or tuck it into your waistband, it reveals that , in most cases, the wearer is, in fact quite normal for not having dumbos trunk stashed down his shorts. It shows that most men are average in size and the average size is less than we are made to think is "ideal".
Plus being big is seen as a problem too, particularly if there's still no six-pack and bulging super muscle figure above it... and there's enough uncertainty about what average is anyway that you can't win.

But I think being able to see the size really isn't one of the main objections. I think it's understandable if most people would rather not have the precise detail of anyone's bits, no matter whether average, small or big (or male or female, for that matter), displayed where people are eating and drinking or even just going about their daily lives, wrapped only in a thin layer of smelly sweaty lycra (I expect there are niche eateries which do have barely-dressed models on show, though) - and if you wouldn't want someone's bits in your face (and yes, if you're sat at a table in a busy cafe while others are queuing nearby, it can be pretty much in your face!), why inflict yours on others?
 

Inertia

I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!
Plus being big is seen as a problem too, particularly if there's still no six-pack and bulging super muscle figure above it... and there's enough uncertainty about what average is anyway that you can't win.

But I think being able to see the size really isn't one of the main objections. I think it's understandable if most people would rather not have the precise detail of anyone's bits, no matter whether average, small or big (or male or female, for that matter), displayed where people are eating and drinking or even just going about their daily lives, wrapped only in a thin layer of smelly sweaty lycra (I expect there are niche eateries which do have barely-dressed models on show, though) - and if you wouldn't want someone's bits in your face (and yes, if you're sat at a table in a busy cafe while others are queuing nearby, it can be pretty much in your face!), why inflict yours on others?
I'd like to think most people CGAF, maybe if people were less hung up on how other people look we would have fewer body image issues.

To the OP, give them a try and see if you like them, most people arent paying attention to what you wear. I passed lots of cyclist this morning, I couldn't tell you what they were wearing, at the time or now. The most important part is if you feel comfortable in them.
 
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