Ming the Merciless
There is no mercy
- Location
- Inside my skull
It is anti e bike to want them to have a reasonable cut off speed for the motor? Oh dear!
Petition for law change - Ebike Assist Limit
- Thread starter jowwy
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Spinney
Bimbleur extraordinaire
- Location
- Back up north
Won't the pulsing in and out just happen at a higher speed, then, if the assist limit is raised?
What is needed is a bit of software or something to smooth the cutting in and out. Then you'll be happy with a smoother ride, and people who think the existing speed limit for assist is high enough will also be happy.
So technology, not a change in the law, could be a better solution.
Slick
Guru
It's probably already all been said in a very short space of time and whilst I'm not an e-biker Mrs Slick is and she loves it and if I could get away with it, I would love it too. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before I finally relent and invest in one so I do have an opinion as a user.
The school boy still in me would love to get my hands on the unrestricted version in the shop when I was there, but realistically the current set up is enough. For the more able they can get up to any speed along as a non assisted bike and for the less able it's become much less about speed and more about the journey. Mrs Slick gave me quite a hard time last time out as she struggled to keep up when all she wanted to do was enjoy the scenery and just being out in the fresh air. I suppose I could sign the petition and hopefully she would keep up next time but I reckon that's just not what e-bikes are all about. Next time out I'll go a lot slower but obviously everyone has to make their own decisions but after a bit of thought, I'll not be signing.
Interesting thread though.
The school boy still in me would love to get my hands on the unrestricted version in the shop when I was there, but realistically the current set up is enough. For the more able they can get up to any speed along as a non assisted bike and for the less able it's become much less about speed and more about the journey. Mrs Slick gave me quite a hard time last time out as she struggled to keep up when all she wanted to do was enjoy the scenery and just being out in the fresh air. I suppose I could sign the petition and hopefully she would keep up next time but I reckon that's just not what e-bikes are all about. Next time out I'll go a lot slower but obviously everyone has to make their own decisions but after a bit of thought, I'll not be signing.
Interesting thread though.
Biff600
Veteran
We aren't in the US !
Pre-2014 Ebikes still exist, which legally allow throttle only use. Since the law change any new Ebikes must be pedal assist
Profpointy
Legendary Member
I think it's from Mugen, which has close links to the Honda family
Not if you are physically incapable of reaching that speed and believe me, commuting home uphill even in my ebike is very difficult to reach 17mph and keep it there
snorri
Legendary Member
- Location
- East coast, up a bit.
There are no posts on this thread that could be described as the actions of 'shouty anti Ebikers'.
So not a pedal assist ebike then, which is what this thread is about
The best at doing it so far is far out of reach financially to the regular ebike/commuter.......with increase in advanced technology, is increase in price, sometimes there’s a simpler non cost action that can be taken to aid all, not just the better financially elite
Profpointy
Legendary Member
At the risk of treating seriously a light hearted post, I feel pedals are rather by the by. Surely the / your debate is about power or speed limits, no? Back in the day a petrol driven moped had to have pedals and be under 50cc until you got to 60mph "mopeds" which still retained token pedals. Sensibly they changed the rules to be 50cc and under 30mph (ish) and / or power limits, but are still treated to a lighter version of proper motorcycle rules
In the law changes made pedals are not by the by.....as newer Ebikes are cadence driven, therefore low or no pedalling would stop all assistance to the bike. Therefore you need to pedal to get the assist required......the assist is an increase in your own input, by a % allowance of the motor, low cadence = low assist......more input/cadence = more assist up to the allowable limit, in this case the 15.6mph speed limit. But it doesn’t mean you will automatically be boosted to that speed without regular input
I can tell when a rider is making no effort, or at least not the effort to ride at 25mph and overtaking pretty fit club riders into a headwind.
I know you're Mr ebiker around here and won't have anything said bad about them. I think they're great actually, but there are problems brewing.
15.5mph is adequate, IMO. If you want to go faster assisted, go here https://urbanebikes.com/collections/speed-pedelec they'll happily sell you want you think you need. Just don't be riding on protected cycle paths, if you don't mind.
I know you're Mr ebiker around here and won't have anything said bad about them. I think they're great actually, but there are problems brewing.
15.5mph is adequate, IMO. If you want to go faster assisted, go here https://urbanebikes.com/collections/speed-pedelec they'll happily sell you want you think you need. Just don't be riding on protected cycle paths, if you don't mind.
booze and cake
probably out cycling
I've got nothing against e-bikes and love the fact its getting folk out on bikes who otherwise wouldn't be able to enjoy the cycling experience.
But the current limits sound entirely sensible to me, e-bikes are not designed as speed machines, if you want to go faster, pedal harder, or get a motorbike or moped.
But the current limits sound entirely sensible to me, e-bikes are not designed as speed machines, if you want to go faster, pedal harder, or get a motorbike or moped.
Conversely why 15.6mph?
