Plea to London pedestrians

[jefmcg]

Plea to London pedestrians

Please choose at most one option

1. Use an iPod
2. Cross road without looking

 

[TwickenhamCyclist]

Succinct

 

[Tynan]

waste of thread

the ones without ipod cross without looking are normal

the ones that actually look the right way in enough time to actually stop and evn say sorry suprise me, the ones that leave me enough time to swerve around are all the time

the ones I swerve around with them not enough knowing I was there are routine

 

[John90]

It isn't so much the ones crossing the road, irritating as they are, because at least I can usually tell what they are going to do. The pedestrians that worry me are the ones who suddenly step into the road to overtake other pedestrians on crowded pavements. Or is that a problem because I am cycling too close to the pavement?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

It isn't so much the ones crossing the road, irritating as they are, because at least I can usually tell what they are going to do. The pedestrians that worry me are the ones who suddenly step into the road to overtake other pedestrians on crowded pavements. Or is that a problem because I am cycling too close to the pavement?

If you are less than a meter from the curb then yes.

 

[John90]

If you are less than a meter from the curb then yes.

I feel a 'door zone'-style conversation brewing.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

I feel a 'door zone'-style conversation brewing.

Not at all it is called riding in secondary position. Obviously when cars are involved you ride further away from them (if you wish to).

 

[BentMikey]

I don't care about pedestrians on iPods, I care about those that don't look/think. The ones that don't look aren't going to hear a bicycle anyway. Perhaps the less attentive pedestrians are those having a mobile phone conversation - something like 500,000 people a year in the UK visit A&E after tripping over street furniture because they weren't paying attention.

TBH very few of us should be having problems with pedestrians. It's up to us to ride further out, to slow down, to take more care around them, and not to use bells/shouting/AirZound to get them out of "our" way.

 

[John90]

On some busy London roads (which are also the busy commuter ones), particularly around the City, the roads are too narrow to do that consistently IMHO. Designed for Victorian travel arrangements.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

I don't care about pedestrians on iPods, I care about those that don't look/think. The ones that don't look aren't going to hear a bicycle anyway. Perhaps the less attentive pedestrians are those having a mobile phone conversation - something like 500,000 people a year in the UK visit A&E after tripping over street furniture because they weren't paying attention.

TBH very few of us should be having problems with pedestrians. It's up to us to ride further out, to slow down, to take more care around them, and not to use bells/shouting/AirZound to get them out of "our" way.

As was discussed in another thread rightly or wrongly pedestrians have the ultimate priority unless otherwise stated.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

On some busy London roads (which are also the busy commuter ones), particularly around the City, the roads are too narrow to do that consistently IMHO. Designed for Victorian travel arrangements.

In that case it is your responsibility to ensure you ride in a manner which will allow you to stop should a ped step into your path.

 

[BentMikey]

You'll notice that I left a gap there - we can't always correct for every mistake made by pedestrians. Nearly all of them, but sometimes the pedestrian will make the situation bad enough that our ability to correct for their mistakes is overwhelmed.

 

[BentMikey]

On some busy London roads (which are also the busy commuter ones), particularly around the City, the roads are too narrow to do that consistently IMHO. Designed for Victorian travel arrangements.

You can't take the lane?

 

[gaz]

On some busy London roads (which are also the busy commuter ones), particularly around the City, the roads are too narrow to do that consistently IMHO. Designed for Victorian travel arrangements.

Do you have an example road? I can't think of any roads in london where i can't cycle at least a meter away from the curb.

 

[John90]

You can't take the lane?

Not consistently, although I accept that I will sometimes be at fault because I am undertaking slow/stationary traffic.